Listen to this episode from The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify. Mike Baker is a former CIA covert operations officer and current CEO of Portman Square Group, a global intelligence firm. He's also the host of "Black Files Declassified" on Discovery+ and the Science Channel, and author of "Company Rules, Or Everything I Know About Business I Learned from the CIA." Look for "The President's Daily Brief" podcast he's hosting startring on September 5. www.portmansquaregroup.com