• WolfdadCigarette@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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    This is what I hate about the homunculi of twitter company personalities. “Hahaa, did you see the way Walmart clapped back at IBM?“ Humanizing vast, faceless companies puppeted by sociopathic business majors triggers every rage response that my body can muster. Please, shut the fuck up

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      [Off-topic] Your display name is hilarious. It reminds me old viruses with double extensions, like hotpix.jpg.vbs

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      If every MBA on the planet were suddenly teleported to Planet MBA…would anyone really miss them?

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      People propagate this though. Company twitter accounts posting derivative meme shit is what people reshare. Most people consider Apple/Tesla/Pelaton/Nintendo to be their buddies and love it when their buddy seems like a down to earth, regular guy. It’s cringe.

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      unrelated but “the homunculus of Twitter” is a good nickname for Elon

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        Now I’m having visions of the high priestess X’twitterquatl sacrificing Mayan children on a pyramid as lightning flashes in an attempt to animate their engine of destruction; The Homonculus of X’twitter.

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      i wish they would all act like the faceless industrial complexes out there

      you don’t see this from stuff like Caterpillar

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        Points to the desolate wasteland of dead small businesses and underpaid workers subsisting on welfare unable to even afford shopping at walmart

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          You guys really need to have some effective government that will enact normal minimal wage and anti monopoly laws. But I wonder if the most people are poor then why they don’t vote for a party that represents them and wants to raise or set minimum wage (whichever applies)?

          The logic says that everyone should vote for someone that will better their conditions and yet it looks like there’s some weird shit going on where only well off, rich people vote left (whatever left means in the specific county). It’s completely backwards

          I vote left too and classic example of this and honestly I think I won’t next time cause it is not in my interest. Though centrist party here would probably be something like warren in USA

          Actually I remember now why I find these comments jarring is because I don’t live in the USA so I don’t have this inherent hate for capitalism but it is understandable in that context or anywhere where people are stuck in quasi democratic situation of permanent superliberal gov thanks to two party system

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            But I wonder if the most people are poor then why they don’t vote for a party that represents them and wants to raise or set minimum wage (whichever applies)?

            People won’t vote for them because they “can’t win”, and they can’t win because people won’t vote for them. It’s a self-perpetuating cycle.

            Consider 3 candidates running for president right now: Jill Stein, Kamala Harris, and Donald Trump. Jill Stein has a platform of raising the minimum wage, healthcare guaranteed as a human right, and a bunch of other awesome stuff. Harris has almost no platform at all, but she has vibes. And Trump wants to have a Christian dictatorship and deport millions of people.

            Stein is the only one of these 3 candidates who wants to raise the minimum wage, but she’s only polling at 1%, and people don’t want to vote for her because they’re afraid that Trump will win.

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              I understand but still it is hilarious when people blame some Walmart of all things as a consequence. The evil Walmart regime

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    Sorry beforehand for the intrusive politics, but it’s kind of unavoidable for me in this case.

    This is almost a textbook example of the Marxist concept of alienation. Once a brand takes over a meme, people are alienated from

    • the meme itself - because nobody wants to sound like an ad board
    • from the creative process behind the meme - because creating a new meme gets that sour taste in the mouth, as you feel that corporations might hijack it
    • from human nature and themselves - because memes are a form of self-expression
    • from each other - because memes are intrinsically social and it’s yet another social link being removed by the corporation hijacking the meme
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      I’d say the outcome is alienation; the process as the comic demonstrates it is a kind of recuperation, the process through which ideas (especially subversive or dangerous ones) are neutered and commodified.

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      I swear I can find an applicable Marx excerpt for almost anything. His work has strengthened my anti-capitalist conversations a ton.

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        Well, that’s what you get when an old style journalist has a knack for philosophy. I heavily recommend his texts, even to non-communists - not as some sort of political proselytism from my part, but because the content is useful/interesting even if you aren’t a communist, you know?

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        Maybe because people keep attributing concepts that have been around for thousands of years to him lol

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        Yes! He also invented airplanes, internet shitposting, Santa Klaus, and Brezeln.

        I’m joking of course. No, he didn’t invent the concept, he took it from Hegel. However that specific usage of the concept is the one from Marxism.

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        The fact that the word “alienation” already existed doesn’t mean Marx didn’t have a specific theory about alienation in specific contexts that ended being pretty influential for philosophy. Like, holy shit, Marx’s theory of alienation isn’t obscure. Do a minimum of research before spouting ignorant bullshit.

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    I went to my city’s pride parade 10 years ago and this past year, huge difference. Everything is commercial and expensive now and it’s just full of corporate floats

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    Waiting for the CEO of Disney to try to sell the Live Action remake of Coco by exclaiming that “his name Jeff” and then fail to understand why nobody liked that, to which he’ll respond by cancelling something popular on Disney+ and greenlighting the worst fucking thing ever to take its place.

    (RIP Willow and Acolyte)

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    This makes me wonder: what exactly happened to the Coffin Dance meme, was it assimilated by some brand so to fell in disuse? Did the Coffin Dance guys danced with the Coffin Dance meme’s coffin?

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      Why do people expect something to be funny forever? Most memes are barely funny in context. Then they are ironically funny, and then they find a place on Facebook where they spend eternity. Why are le rage comic not funny? People loved them. People who post memes now were like 4 when rage comics were cool.

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      Trends in general, be it fashion or hit music or whatever, come and go. It’s human nature. Memes follow the same pattern so they fall out of style/out of heavy use after a while.

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    Then everything dies down … the corps eventually figure out the no one likes the meme anymore so they toss the meme out too…

    … Time passes …

    … then someone new finds this old meme again and it reappears as a new meme once again.

    Then the cycle starts again.

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    Is email a meme? Was the telephone a meme?

    Don’t walk away guys! Use that shit, send me more spam! I love spam! Yes I would like a cruise to the Bahamas. Yes I would love to make over 2 million from the comfort of my home while loosing weight using wegovy! Please send me that virus! Oh you wanna serve your own email server to get out of Gmail? Nah, that’s impossible! Pay them 15 bucks a month! It’s worth it!

    RIP email, and part for the soul of the telephone… telephone, we hardly knew you! First with your spin dial. I did 1 call with spin dial. Then your 3inch stroke push buttons, then your 0.01" stroke push buttons, then your virtual capacitance glass buttons…and then puff! He was gone.

    I think they died as memes.

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      This is the way things go. If enough people come to one place order use one medium, it becomes a target for businesses who will squeeze it to death. Enough people listening to radio and this broadcast is brought by… New site that people start to use? Time to insert some corporate messages.

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    Old fags remember rule: don’t share memes with normies, it will kill a meme.

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    TBH brands probably have more power in creating memes than regular people do. A lot of memes were probably started by brands, such as the spongebob textbook math about footlongs infinitely approaching free as you buy more.