Max Roser (2024) - “Many of us can save a child’s life, if we rely on the best data” Published online at OurWorldInData.org. Retrieved from: ‘https://ourworldindata.org/many-us-can-save-childs-life-rely-best-data’ [Online Resource]
Interesting visualization from the same source:
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Man, circumcision is really high up there, makes me suspicious.
Why does it make you suspicious? Oh I see, blades near genitals sure are scary.
On the statistic: A little bit of a snip doesn’t seem very expensive to me. I wonder if this statistic also includes the cost for consulting with the doctor or the reduced risk of spreading HIV to other people. According to some reports on the topic by the World Health Organization and US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, it seems to reduce the risk of HIV infection by a bit more than 50% and reduces other infection risks too.
Assuming $1000 can afford about 20 to 50 circumcisions, assuming they happen almost exclusively for high risk males (eg men with wife working as a sex worker, or wife living in high risk areas in south/east africa, or men frequently changing sex partners) and assuming this extends life spans for about 5 to 20 years by preventing an infection, those numbers kinda seem sane.
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$1000 for 50 circumcisions? I bet I could get into that market by
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Undercutting.
😄 Wordplay!
A quick note since it might not be clear, I just randomly assumed that doctors need about 1 or 2 hours to consult with the patient and do the operation. With an average hourly wage in South Africa according to “the internet” of about $15 to $20 and medical tools/facilities costing an estimated $10 or so. Maybe it’s a bit more or less, but those numbers seemed sane and careful enough. Like all the numbers in my estimation they could easily be off by a factor of two or so. Also, since this is about disease prevention note that this is hopefully not done by some random black market quack doctor.YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
Is that why circumcision is a thing?
Cut off your son’s dickskin so he doesn’t die early from whatever he gets up to when he grows up to become a man-slut?
You mean besides the religious ritual aspect and telling people what to do? From a medical perspective that seems to be the whole idea yeah.
These two things are not mutually exclusive. People back in the day were just as smart as us, it’s likely they noticed people who had their dick snipped were more likely to not-die, and so it became a religious mandate. A lot of religious dogma has a basis in functional routines or hygiene. Think of how Islam asks you to wash yourself before praying. Yes it is because you’re presenting yourself to God, but also because people realized washing yourself often seemed to have a positive effect on your health, maybe you got sick less often, which sounds like a blessing, doesn’t it?
If you cut your legs, it will prevent leg diseases too, how does the study consider this bias?
How does cutting off your legs and circumsision compare?
If you cut something out, then you can’t have diseases on this part anymore, but it doesn’t mean it’s a health benefit overall. I used the leg example to make the idea more obvious.
Yeah, it is a left over thing from the aids epidemic… There are slightly higher rates of transmission if you are circumcised. I suspect that the information in this graph is either wrong or outdated.
Man, I don’t know about you, but my foreskin has at least killed 2 people, that I know’ve.
I don’t know how many people my foreskin has killed, because it was stolen from me before I could speak. So I have to assume it grew up on the streets, fell in with a bad crowd, and turned to drug dealing to get by.
Stop drug dealers by keeping foreskins where they belong: on penii.
Is there a sub that is less focused on interesting data, and more focused on data presented beautifully?
So many interventions here are STI related.
I was curious about the source used for this graph and found it’s a free book that’s available online in the National Library of Medicine (of the US). Here’s Chapter 7 of the book Disease Control Priorities as referenced in the picture.
