• OminousOrange@lemmy.ca
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    It’s kind of amazing how people will continue to vote for people who create policy that is proven to be ineffective at best and directly harmful at worst.

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      Yesterday my buddy who barely works and doesn’t do overtime said: “poivrière said he would reduces taxes on overtime, I want that - why wouldn’t I vote for him?” I don’t blame my buddy, and we avoid discussing politics, but these people are short-sighted and cannot be saved.

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          He lives out in the sticks, I can’t undo 15 years of skipping out on education (he’s 38).

          I do argue it in moderation, but I prefer to tackle critical thinking in general, and hope he learns to draw his own conclusions. He recently got over that the earth is not flat and that those conspiracies don’t hold water. He’s even starting to identify content on tiktok that is framed in a certain way.

          Maybe we’ll get there one day!

          Edit: Tbf he’s a mechanic, and a good one at that, so flat earth was an easy topic. He managed to understand we can’t make oldschool carburators with flat earth physics, and he knows how those work. It’s like if I tried to convince him displacement in an engine isn’t real, just invented by big oil.

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            He recently got over that the earth is not flat

            jfk, my comrade in crisis, you have the patience of a saint.

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            God I would love to see a flat earther realize and admit they’ve been wrong this whole time.

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              Imo that only feels good when it’s someone who actively causes harm with their stupidy and they finally get justice. In this case I consider it to be more sad than anything else; it’s a function of his upbringing, not who he is.

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                Well I don’t want them to feel bad, I just want to see it so I know that it actually happens and my faith in humanity can be slightly restored.

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    As part of its plan to ban supervised consumption sites and close 10 of those operating in Ontario, the province has announced the creation of 19 intensive addiction recovery facilities, named HART Hubs.

    A $378-million budget has been allocated to create the new spaces, which will combine addiction recovery with highly supportive housing units. The program should lead to 375 “highly supportive” housing units as part of the hub model.

    That doesn’t sound bad, actually.

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      That is promising, though it would be a good next step to the consumption sites rather than a replacement for them.

      The consumption sites would be good first points of contact so users could be provided the treatment centre information.

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      Some one in BC interviewed about safe injection sites said it is not a help, it justlengtyens the slow path to suicide. Oof.

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        That’s because they’re only one part of a whole solution. The issue was never the drugs themselves. The reasons people get addicted to drugs are largely systemic in nature. Systemic solutions for systemic problems.

        I should lay out that I believe in housing as a basic human right and think that everyone is entitled to a safe and warm place to sleep. But even when arguing from a practical standpoint it’s next to impossible to find a job that will hire a person with no address and possibly no government ID (need an address to get documents!). For people to even have the chance to turn their lives around they NEED a personal living space to store their belongings. Doesn’t even need to be any more complex than a hotel room.

        I understand the frustrations with safe consumption sites, but they are realistically solvable, and the only reason we haven’t solved them is because all these politicians are too myopic to realize the long-term benefits of actually helping our communities. They do provide a real service with the guarantee of medical staff on hand and 100% pure doses that won’t instantly kill you. The problem is that without all the other things in place they look very silly.

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      I believe in previous threads on the subject, it was identified that forced rehab doesn’t work. I’m too lazy to go find the threads FYI

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        It may not for some, but some former addicts say without that they would never have broken free of the downward spiral. The drugs make you only find joy in drugs, it doesn’t seem to have a solution