I tried a couple of times and it’s still magic to see anyone able to use it properly

I’ll just stick to VScode for now I guess

    • Leigh@lemmy.ml
      2·
      1 year ago

      This is exactly how I learned all those years ago, and to this day, I still use vim regularly. As in, literally, I was using it on a server this morning to make some changes. It’s just become natural to me now.

  • The_Pete@lemmy.world
    2·
    1 year ago

    If you are actually interested in learning, it’s not too hard, you’ll be slow for a little bit but it pays off in the end.

    First, understanding there are actions and objects and quantifiers. Actions are what you do to objects, so when you want to (d) delete, that is the action, then you’d want to specify a object. ($) being the end of the line, (^) start, (w) is word, (j), (g) is top of file and so on, these are already the words you’ll use to move along as well.

    Then, for many of these we can add quantifiers, i.e. repeat x number of times.

    So 3dw is delete three words and 3dj is three lines down and so on. If you want to select, it’s just swap v for d and off to the races.

    Once you learn the basic concept, you really only need a few actions and a few objects to be functional.

    Print/find/make a cheat sheet and put it up by your monitor or keyboard and give yourself a week.

    Also, checkout the vimtudor or vim golf and play the game for a few minutes.

    • Petri@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 year ago

      I would never use an IDE that didn’t have a Vi/Vim mode or plugin :-)

  • JoYo@lemmy.ml
    1·
    1 year ago

    I get the feeling that every developer with this midnset still uses a tenkey.

  • Fiech@discuss.tchncs.de
    1·
    1 year ago

    As a long time vim user with many macros and plugins, etc. and I love using it. But I have to say, it’s hard for me to actually suggest vim to anyone new, because of how long it takes until you actually start using it comfortably…

  • TheInsane42@lemmy.ml
    1·
    1 year ago

    Drat, I’ve been working with vi for 35y now… (feeling old) I’m glad I now know how to kill the mouse functions in vim so X clipboard works. ;)

    Tried emacs once (in '94)… opened an extra xterm and killed it as I couldn’t figure out how to save and exit. (it’s just what you’re used to ;) )

  • jmsw22@lemmy.ml
    1·
    1 year ago

    I have about 30 years of my career left. That’s not enough time for the return on investment of learning VIM to payout.

    • taj@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 year ago

      Eh. I know the basics. I can open, do some very basic editng, save and close. That’s about as much as is really needed, right?

        • AlwynEvokedHippest@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I can do it, too.

          But I learned a few key steps in the process are: hit Ctrl Q, hit Ctrl C, hit Escape a few times, swear, take a breather, remember you’re in VIM and are now (accidentally rather then due to any correct move) out of INSERT mode, type :q.

          Then you go to the sofa and put yourself in the fetal position.

  • degrix@lemmy.world
    0·
    1 year ago

    I’ve tried for years to master vim, but still fall back to old habits. I have gotten to the point where single file editing is faster in vim than in IntelliJ, but still haven’t figured out the mysteries of vim buffers and multi-file editing.