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- apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world
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- apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world
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Once again, I’m still trying to figure out how apple users can defend this. Yes, Google maps had this feature, but everytime I talk to apple users I’m always told they got their phone because “it just works!”. But then I learn that features I consider basic at best are completely missing. If my iphone should “just work” I expect the features I want to exist without another app installation. Things on iphone only seem to work if you don’t know anything better.
Things on iphone only seem to work if you don’t know anything better.
Competition is good, so I like that iOS provides an alternative to Android.
I still consider the lack of sideloading without jailbreaks a dealbreaker for iOS though.
Things on iphone only seem to work if you don’t know anything better.
Mystery resolved.
Basically iPhone users don’t know what they don’t have because they never bothered to look outside of their little walled garden. There are some good features of iPhones (like 3) but mostly they’re just been sold as a lifestyle product.
That it just works does not mean I’m bound to Apple apps only. It just works includes having fantastic third party apps that do the job when Apples are lacking.
Calendar, mail, maps, music, password manager and the likes are such for me. But it still “just works”.
Missing features at OS level is one thing. But missing features in a goddamn app, when there are alternatives? Common…
I think part of the “it just works” definition is the default apps should work without missing features, however you’re not wrong, alternatives do exist.
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Fair enough. Guess we just have different views when it comes to that then.
For me “it just works” is much more about the OS. Sending files between my Apple devices in high quality within seconds without internet, browsers and files syncing, having my Airpods switch from phone to Apple TV with the press of a button/automatically, face-id not failing 50% of the time, the watch works when I speak to it and does what I want it to.
These are by no means crazy and things, but I struggle daily at work with my none Apple headset, the windows computer, my android phone. It just “does not work” smoothly. And they all sync horribly with each other for some reason. Files are not easily shared I often end up having to email myself, my headset that cost $400 lives it own life, features are automatically turned on again and again by themselves, for some reason. I have to restart my Microsoft IDE at least 10 times a day. Stuff like that.
You do not get all the features, that’s for sure. But you get less friction. I think that’s what most are getting at with it just works. Less friction.
I agree, the features apple does implement do tend to be more polished or at the very least not annoying to the user.
Downloading Google maps is an option. I have never used Apple maps.
Apple Maps + CarPlay is so much better than Google Maps + Android Auto that the latter is embarrassing.
I say this as someone that has owned Android phones since the very beginning (HTC Dream/T-Mobile G1).
I’ve never seen or used CarPlay. Mind telling me what I’m missing out on as an Android Auto user?
Not the person you replied to; I found the UI to be terribly laid out. Text is too small, too much wasted blank space. This was on a Pixel 6 Pro. Not sure if I’ve tried it on the latest OS.
Depends on the car
That maybe, but CarPlay has been good on every car I’ve ever used it in. I have the first gen screen size ratio, nothing crazy.
Your anecdote is appreciated
Apple devices are just status symbols. And as such, too many people that cannot really afford them buy the devices and have to tell themselves there’s a rational reason to. That’s also why they cheer record financial figures, passionately fight criticism or tell people having technical issues that it’s their fault. It’s basically Stockholm syndrome.
The ability to put home screen icons where I want them.
A back gesture that works everywhere, and doesn’t require me to hunt and peck because the app developer has invented some random unique gesture ‘because’.
Stupid thing is both of these could be added in a minor software update, but I’ve been holding by breath for a decade now…
As I have to use both platforms for development those are the things that I notice most.
A back gesture that works everywhere, and doesn’t require me to hunt and peck because the app developer has invented some random unique gesture ‘because’.
People keep saying this and yet this has literally never happened to me in 5 years of using iOS. Maybe don’t use apps developed by people that don’t know what they’re doing? Developers can disable the back button on android too if they hate their users.
They can’t… in android the OS defines the navigation. Back works everywhere. You can do wierd stuff to make back do silly things and go to the wrong screen, but that takes a bit of effort.
In iOS, so far I’ve seen… swipe left, swipe right, swipe from the bottom, click ‘back on a button on the left’, tap on the screen to bring up a button then click that…
Some actions are impossible… you click on a link in mail to see for example a tracking number… for me a daily occurrence. There is no back gesture available, you have to go back to the home screen and restart the mail app, which is utterly stupid especially when you have to do it multiple times.
On android it’s simple. Want to go back? Wiggle your right thumb. Done.
The OS should define navigation. Always.
I don’t know if I understand you correctly, but it’s actually very possible to go back to the previous app with just one swipe. No need to return to home screen. I have iPhone 11 Pro (should work the same for any newer models too) and you just swipe at the bottom from left to right and it will switch to the previous app you had open. You can do the same gesture from right to left to go forward to the next app. You can continue the same to shift through all your recently opened apps.
Also just pulling up on the bottom will bring up all your open apps in recent order. I omit that a single press button is quicker, however I prefer not to have any on screen buttons or off screen buttons so it’s fine for me
It’s not a big deal? I didn’t even remember there were no offline maps. I haven’t had any connectivity problems in the last several years I guess. I flip back and forth between Apple Maps, Google maps, and Waze depending on my needs or if I forget.
A tad bit late.
I’m kind of glad the main dev team is seconded to visionOS this year. iOS 17 doesn’t have anything too crazy but the QoL improvements and long-standing feature gaps like this one being closed are really where the attention needs to be.
Apple has really polished Maps, Mail, Safari and Home over the iOS 17 beta period and I hope that continues during the minor updates.
For offline usage, I prefer using Here WeGo (I like download the full map instead).
For the other 90% usage, Waze and Apple Maps are good enough.
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Maps.me is neither open-source nor free, I believe they even introduced IAP at some point.
Organic Maps though is FOSS and it’s by the same developers. They both use OpenStreetMap mapping data, developers of which created Osmand which is just orders of magnitude more customisable. Quite a powerhouse of a navigation app, but may be overkill for some people.
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last release march 2020;
according to the OSM Wiki, Maps.me was sold in November 2020 and the source code was locked down. The original developers forked the app, reused old code and created Organic Maps.
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