Yikes. There is quite a pattern developing in the religious right, in the US at least. We are turning back the clock folks.
what in the fuck. this is why younger people hate religion.
This is why religion is indoctrinated. While I can accept, even while not believing, the argument that spirituality is innate, organized religion is entirely a human construct.
“Spirituality is innate” is such a copout for me. In my opinion, it just means people have an imagination and emotions, but I don’t want to admit magic isn’t real so I’ll call it spirituality.
Is it useful to view spirituality as makeshift philosophy and psychotherapy? When I pick out the good parts of religion, I see it’s not so different to what a stoic or my therapist might say. You can either pray for or visualize positive outcomes and either way it works to ease the mind. Hell, Nietzsche’s work has basically a religious conception (the Eternal Return) without claiming absolute authority of reality.
I ask because my Mom focuses on this aspect of her religion rather than dogma. I hope it gives her what she needs.
Yep, spirituality is an emergent property with respect to imagination and a lack of omniscience; if something happens that is not explainable by an individual’s knowledge they’ll find it easy to come up with an imagined explanation.
This is why earlier religions explained things like the seasons, weather, earthquakes, volcanos, stars, etc through imagined gods while those same, evolved, religions don’t attempt to do so anymore. We understand them scientifically now.
Young people need to understand, first and foremost, that (almost) everything you believe is wrong. Young people are inherently naive and inexperienced, and must look to their elders and the Bible to learn the proper way to think and behave. Know that God does not change and human nature does not change either. Ever. We all have a lot to learn. Humility is the key. I say this in all acknowledgement that despite my age, I still know next to nothing. If you feel hatred towards religion or anything else (or anyone else), first accept that you are wrong, and then ask God for His guidance.
Well that’s sort of condescending. Age doesn’t make people inherently wiser, and a lack of belief in religion doesn’t imply naivete or inexperience–just a shortage of believable evidence. It’s actually far more naive to believe something without strong evidence, isn’t it?
Yeah, otherwise young people might start to think that women are somehow equal to men and all sorts of other crazy things. Gotta nip that stuff in the bud, right?
I want to go back to the 50s because of high corporate tax rates. You want to go back to the 50s because minorities were afraid. We are not the same.
Thank you so much I needed this
I want to go back to the ‘50s to berate the post war town planners in the UK, as the saying goes at least the Luftwaffe had the decency to replace our buildings with nothing uglier than rubble.
Regressivists hate progress, more news at 11.
Never forget: Men of quality do not fear equality.
Well said, and a fitting first comment for you on Lemmy. Welcome.
Thank you, took a few days to get my bearings, but I think I’m starting to figure it out. Looking forward to seeing how these communities grow.
Oh that’s good. I may use that in the future.
This is not surprising as SBC membership has been steadily declining and this, alongside the overall decline of Christianity in America, is leaving only the most conservative and extreme views behind. This act will only serve to ensure the decline continues as they are really just digging their own grave.
This is such a great observation that it seems obvious as soon as I read it, but it didn’t occur to me at all, especially in the sense you have framed:
The decline of Christianity isn’t a dissipation, it’s a contraction towards the hard core.
Gaming that out leads to some pretty alarming scenarios, and that’s relative to the alarming scenario we are currently living through!
The hard core was always there, the more moderate ones were just cloaking it
SBC also voted to affirm the explusions of two churches, including Saddleback Church, which was founded by highly respected author Rick Warren and is one of the largest baptist churches in the country. They claim nearly 25,000 people in weekly attendance. And Warren’s books, including “The Purpose-Driven Life,” are used all over, including in my then-relatively liberal Lutheran church. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddleback_Church
They were expelled because a woman acted as a youth pastor.
Wow. That’s like kicking the Yankees out of MLB because the league thinks that players should be able to have long hair.
I unfortunately spent around 15 years in a SBC church growing up. I do believe that is one of the reasons I no longer have anything to do with religion. They are a very hateful bunch.
This is why I couldn’t make it through Handmaid’s Tale, its just too close to home at this point.
Yep. I havn’t been able to watch it despite my friends swearing by it. It’s all too familiar to me and the way I grew up.
They continue their march towards irrelevance.
As a former SBC kid, I’m more shocked they would kick out one of their highest grossing businesses out, purely from financial standpoint. Typically, they used to just gloss over this stuff and pretend they didn’t know.
I just want to point out that a group of people are gathering to ensure that they don’t agree to follow a person that they don’t have any obligation to follow anyway.
That “pattern” has been around for at least fifty years. This is merely a continuation of it.
Zooming out reveals the pattern to be a spiral.
Part of me wonders if this is just me getting older and well into the “back in my day” stage of life when I worry that things are getting significantly worse. But it really feels like this poor country is in a serious backward arc and I’m genuinely worried for my kids.
I see the either you’re with us or against us mentality is alive and well. :/
What do you expect from an ideology so doggedly sectarian they do mental gymnastics to justify why a loving god would create people predestined for eternal conscious torment in Hell rather than admit they might be wrong?
These people ‘solve’ the problem of evil like a bag and a river solves the problem of too many kittens.
Christofascism is making its final stand.
