Have you ever actually ridden in an elevator that played music? I’m not sure I can remember ever having that experience.

Of course, I’m familiar with the term “elevator music”. And I don’t doubt music in elevators was a thing or anything. But I’m surprised to hear it’s a thing now-a-days.

I think I’ve probably been in elevators in establishments where music was playing over a speaker system, and the music was audible in the elevator, but the music was never only in the elevator as far as I can recall.

My mother has two chihuahuas. Neither one needs an angel chihuahua or devil chihuahua on their shoulders. Each one barks enough for three dogs all on their own.

(This is no reflection on chihuahuas in general. She once had another chihuahua who would never bark, ever. Until we specifically taught her to bark on command for a treat. And after that, on command was the only time she ever barked.)

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Ever notice how you only ever hear bad stories from anyone involved with Bitcoin?

That’s by design.

You derive amusement from this?

Ho hey, hey ho, GenAI has got to go.

You ok?

https://lemmyverse.link/lemmy.world/comment/24735359

Also:

hit enter and not get any result

You mean “hit enter and have it not affect the rendered output.” It does produce a result. It makes it appear/act differently in the editor. That’s not “not getting any result.” Just “not getting any result” that’s visible in the rendered output.

“AI is the asbestos we are shoveling into the walls of our society and our descendants will be digging it out for generations.”

Hey, now there’s a good idea. Why didn’t I think of that?

Graham claims it was a joke.

May well be more of a Schrödinger’s Douchebag thing, though. 🤷

They don’t.

but why isn’t it “fixed”?

Because it is useful to many people in certain contexts. It’s not a bug. It truly is a feature. Not something to be “fixed”.

You may prefer your ice cream strawberry flavored, but that doesn’t mean any ice cream that is instead chocolate flavored is “defective” and needs to be “corrected” or “fixed” to make it strawberry flavored.

So, I think I kindof know what you’re getting at here, but you’re not being very precise about it.

First some definitions (just for purposes of this conversation – don’t take this to be any assertion that a particular term always inherently has a particular meaning, it’s just a tool for this conversation specifically):

• Character: a single unicode character.
• Plain text: unicode text absent any formatting.
• Source: the plain text to be fed into a Markdown renderer to produce rendered output.
• Rendered output: the formatted output of a Markdown renderer, as displayed to an end user.
• Editor: any computer program or component of a computer program for the entry of plain text.
• Line: text (plain text or rendered output, depending on context) rendered at the same vertical position.
• Line break: the point at which text (either plain text or rendered output depending on context) starts rendering on the next line because of a newline.
• Newline: a character that always forces a line break in an editor. (Remember “editor” is only about plaintext, so a newline doesn’t necessarily force a line break in rendered output.)
• Wrap: the point at which, absent a newline, text starts rendering on the next line due to column width constraints.

(As an aside a line break is sometimes accomplished with a “line feed” character. A “carriage return” character is something else that isn’t the same thing. Which is a big part of where the confusion comes from.)

What you’re saying, I think, is that putting a single newline in the source doesn’t result in a line break in the rendered output. Is that right?

In some editors (Vim being one I know of), when plain text word wraps, pressing “down” when the cursor is on the first line of a wrapped series of lines causes the cursor to jump not to the second line of wrapped text, but to the first line after the next newline. To illustrate:

If this line is wrapped due to
being wider than the available
width.
And if this line is on its own line
due to being immediately preceeded
by a newline.

If your cursor in the above example was on the “w” in the first line there, pressing down would take the cursor to the space immediately before “is” in “And if this line is on its own line”.

As a result, it can be quite a pain to deal with word wraps in such editors. This is part of why certain code style guides (like this one and this one have hard limits for how many characters are allowed before the next newline.

Given how much more convenient line breaks can be than word wrapping, people writing source to be rendered into rendered output may wish to be able to insert newlines to cause line breaks in the source without causing any change in the corresponding rendered output.

That all make sense?

At least that’s most likely at least one reason why the people who invented Markdown decided specifically to make Markdown work that way.

Edit: Holy Shit, look, I’m just an idiot typing text expecting WYSIWYG and I don’t see a good reason for why I’m not getting it other than that programmers lack theory of mind.

I’m glad you’re not in charge. I very much don’t want to go back to the days of having TinyMCE embedded in everything.

I’m not sure why there’s so much confusion.

Because you’re not using the right terminology. ;)

I think they’re talking largely (mostly?) about Markdown. (For instance, in Lemmy, when you stick a newline there, it doesn’t give you a line break in the flow of the text.) And when they say “Carriage Return”, they don’t know what they’re talking about. If I’m interpreting them correctly, I think they just mean “newline”. And when they say “two spaces”, I think they mean two newlines.

It’s always sad to see when we’ve lost another one to the “GenAI” cult.

Took me longer than I care to admit to figure that out. Heh.

Yeah, I’ve leaned my lesson trying to predict when a bubble was going to pop with the blockchain madness.

Is what Bitcoin is doing now still a “bubble”? It’s worth a “lot” (whatever that means… I mean I guess it means $64,241.70/BTC), so it’s hard to say the bubble has “popped” per se, but I think the number of people engaged in the market is way down from where it once was. And it’s back to being something people rarely mention, which makes it feel more “popped”-ish. (Remember when SNL was doing skits about NFT’s and stuff? And I know personally I remember times when people at my work were asking the upper management when the company was going to offer Bitcoin as a payment option. I haven’t heard anyone talk like that in a fairly long time.)

But yeah. While I 110% believe there’s virtually no inherent value in “Generative AI” as it exists today and no promise of any kind of game-changing revolution in the “technology” (if it can be called that) that will make it useful, and while I also 110% believe that the hype around it is ludicrously overdone, and in that sense it absolutely is a “bubble”, I think we may have largely moved into a new era of humanity where economic bubbles don’t “pop” the way they used to. The extent to which people just live their entire lives in a fantasy is so great that the market likely won’t so much realize one day it’s all a massive scam causing billions in GDP to evaporate in an hour as just slowly fizzle out anticlimactically. We’ll all kindof realize one day that nobody in our own personal circle has brought up ChatGPT or Claude or whatever in a long time. And maybe there will be massive companies trading billions of dollars of “investment money” round-robin-sylte somewhere in the background, far removed from what most people think about on a daily basis. And likely there will still be occasional postmortem muscle twitches and rallies that let the promoters all collectively pretend “it’s really happening this time” from time to time. But it’ll be so irrelevant that the bubble will feel kinda… if not “popped”, at least “deflated.” And, I doubt even that day will come anywhere near as soon as it ought to.