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    27 days ago

    Again, you are still trying to argue about why the OP topic is bad. I know. I agree. That is not the conversation I am trying to have.

    But you can’t justify saving children by hurting other children…Defending this ban is literally hurting children.

    Other people disagree with you. That is the whole point. They would say the exact same thing about you. That doesn’t make them bad people, it just makes them misinformed.

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        26 days ago

        Of course I would, that’s the only way we solve problems.

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            26 days ago

            I disagree with your conclusion

            I respect your opinion 🙃

            There are some opinions that we must not tolerate

            It’s possible to have a reasoned discussion without “tolerating” the position.

            I’m not saying that there aren’t regular, reasonable people who have genuine concern based in the wellbeing of kids who feel uncomfortable about gender affirming care

            Then I don’t understand why you’re arguing with me. That’s all I’m saying.

            But I have to say that I feel like your position, that we should engage in good faith with people purporting extreme hateful ideology, is extremely harmful

            It’s only “hateful” if you assume their view can be solely attributed to malice, which you’ve already admitted is not necessarily the case.

            And judging them and lobbing insults is super helpful?

            but tone policing people is really unacceptable imo

            LOL “tone policing”? What does that even mean? I don’t even know what your, or anyone else’s tone is.

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                26 days ago

                I absolutely believe that lobbing insults and judging people for spreading hateful ideology is very useful.

                Then you’re delusional.

                There, have I changed your opinion or I have I given you even more conviction?

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                    25 days ago

                    Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

                    • Someone smarter than you