Why should everyone be forced to use their preferred messenger rather than the other way around? Especially when yours/mine has all of the same functionality and none of the ads or spying?
There’s plenty of good open source software that is user friendly, like VLC. The problem is other open source software that isn’t user-friendly and takes this whole "it’s the user’s fault" approach. Folks like you just jerk each other off about how smart open source users are and how dumb proprietary software users are and it’s just so cringy.
And how many peoples’ friends and family are on Signal vs WhatsApp? The whole point of these apps is socializing with people you know, so can you not see how useless of a suggestion it is to recommend Signal? And please don’t get into the "just convince everyone to use Signal’ argument because it’s completely unrealistic.
Signal did itself no favors when it made the bone-headed move of removing SMS support in a delusional attempt at pushing users away from SMS and towards Signal’s encrypted chat. All it did was result in a bunch of people uninstalling the app because it became annoying to use it just for Signal instead of Signal and SMS, which at least gave rise to a SMS user’s eventual shift away from SMS. But we don’t talk about that because open source is always good 😇
It’s like saying modern clubs suck, so I’m going to invest my own club that the vast majority of people won’t attend and those that do are almost all white dudes with the same generic "I’m not like other users" personality.
And you never will if you don’t tell them that’s the only way they can reach you.
As long as you continue allowing them to message you on WA, that’s what you’ll get. And everyone else will have to deal with the consequences of your actions.
Yeah, no. That’s not how the real world works. It’s funny to feel entitled but I can imagine my peers at my previous work saying go fuck myself if I ever told them they had to install whatever-you-say in order to be able to reach to you.
I can imagine my peers at my previous work saying go fuck myself if I ever told them they had to install whatever-you-say in order to be able to reach to you.
It’s funny that you see this sort of “entitlement” as a one way street.
Only in my direction it aims to do nothing but preserve both your and your coworkers privacy and security and yours aims to preserve…Meta’s profits? What exactly are you defending again?
Your form of entitlement involves everyone working around your preferences, and you try to justify it with this weird paternalistic "I know what’s best for you" attitude. The higher you go with privacy, the lower the convenience, and at a certain point it goes past the point of what people are realistically prepared to sacrifice.
Step 1: Don’t.
Video calling using Signal on Linux works perfectly.
This doesn’t help when everyone else doesn’t “Don’t”
It helps having friends who actually respect you.
Why should everyone be forced to use their preferred messenger rather than the other way around? Especially when yours/mine has all of the same functionality and none of the ads or spying?
Because we are the minority. If people understood that, we would be living in an open source utopia already.
Not my problem that other people are too stupid to see how they’re being fucked.
Folks like you are part of the problem but you’re clearly way too far gone to realize it.
No, folks like you are the problem. Apathy is how we got here in the first place.
There’s plenty of good open source software that is user friendly, like VLC. The problem is other open source software that isn’t user-friendly and takes this whole "it’s the user’s fault" approach. Folks like you just jerk each other off about how smart open source users are and how dumb proprietary software users are and it’s just so cringy.
And how many peoples’ friends and family are on Signal vs WhatsApp? The whole point of these apps is socializing with people you know, so can you not see how useless of a suggestion it is to recommend Signal? And please don’t get into the "just convince everyone to use Signal’ argument because it’s completely unrealistic.
Signal did itself no favors when it made the bone-headed move of removing SMS support in a delusional attempt at pushing users away from SMS and towards Signal’s encrypted chat. All it did was result in a bunch of people uninstalling the app because it became annoying to use it just for Signal instead of Signal and SMS, which at least gave rise to a SMS user’s eventual shift away from SMS. But we don’t talk about that because open source is always good 😇
It’s like saying modern clubs suck, so I’m going to invest my own club that the vast majority of people won’t attend and those that do are almost all white dudes with the same generic "I’m not like other users" personality.
I already did but this guy ain’t looking for a solution. Next bro’s gonna call me a white guy.
…you can socialize with all of the same people on Signal? So no.
Signal had absolutely never done anything remotely as “bone-headed” as collecting user data and using it to serve you ads.
It’s not unrealistic. Most people are happy to.
Ah yeah, this seems like a problem for casual racism…
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Goodbye racist
Soft, oh so soft.
this is the way
I know nobody who uses signal 💀
Using WhatsApp won’t fix it.
I can convince but it’s hard
It gets easier.
And you never will if you don’t tell them that’s the only way they can reach you.
As long as you continue allowing them to message you on WA, that’s what you’ll get. And everyone else will have to deal with the consequences of your actions.
Yeah, no. That’s not how the real world works. It’s funny to feel entitled but I can imagine my peers at my previous work saying go fuck myself if I ever told them they had to install whatever-you-say in order to be able to reach to you.
The real world separates personal and work.
It’s funny that you see this sort of “entitlement” as a one way street.
Only in my direction it aims to do nothing but preserve both your and your coworkers privacy and security and yours aims to preserve…Meta’s profits? What exactly are you defending again?
So weird how that works.
Your form of entitlement involves everyone working around your preferences, and you try to justify it with this weird paternalistic "I know what’s best for you" attitude. The higher you go with privacy, the lower the convenience, and at a certain point it goes past the point of what people are realistically prepared to sacrifice.
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It helps having friends who actually respect you. Rude people attract other rude people. Using WhatsApp won’t fix it.