• helenslunch
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    16 days ago

    Disposable cars is where we’re headed. We allowed it with electronics, why wouldn’t we allow it with cars?

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      16 days ago

      The ages of cars on the road has been increasing. As reliability and prices continue to go up, more and more people hold on to their cars.

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        16 days ago

        When they can. They may not be able to in the future.

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          16 days ago

          Maybe. I don’t know of any other car brands that totally shit the bed when the cloud services get cut off.

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            16 days ago

            How many have been cut off? Fisker will probably be first to go.

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              16 days ago

              To be fair, Fiskers are likely to brick themselves and the company is still alive. They have some of the worst software in the auto industry.

              That said, my point is that a lot of “smart” cars are designed work just fine offline. Being offline is common in rural areas and or when the driver decided to stop paying for mobile connectivity.

              I’ve done the latter with a couple cars. You lose the ability to download new maps, see traffic, install updated streaming apps, and or remotely control climate / windows / locks with your phone. But I use my phone for music maps, and I don’t really care about unlocking the car with my phone.

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                15 days ago

                a lot of “smart” cars are designed work just fine offline.

                Citation? I don’t see anyone testing that because people don’t seem to care.

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                  15 days ago

                  I can speak for Volvo and Audi’s platforms over the past 5-10 years. I spent a lot of times using those. They’re connected up the wazoo, but they also work just fine if you stop paying for cloud connectivity or get into a remote area.

                  You basically lose access to advanced maps, streaming apps, and being able to remotely control / monitor your car with your phone.

                  When I briefly looked at a Telsa, it looked like those things were kind of in a similar boat. Biggest problem with Tesla is that, since they don’t support CarPlay or Android Auto, you -need- a cloud subscription if you want streaming apps and maps. Other cars can pipe that into the center console through Apple or Google’s projection systems.

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                    15 days ago

                    Yes but for how long? There’s already been reports of Tesla’s refusing to Supercharge without installing software updates.