cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/794993
Archived version: https://archive.ph/YHzBc
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230728005938/https://www.reuters.com/world/us-intelligence-report-says-china-likely-supplying-tech-russian-military-2023-07-27/
Russia is the aggressor and the US stands with Ukraine and helps them.
China pretends to be ‘neutral’ in a war so glaringly having a country violate the sovereignty of Ukraine but then secretly support the aggressor.
What is so difficult to understand? Or do you purposefully try to muddy the waters by invoking “whatabout…?” and see if the countries supporting Ukraine could be slandered?
This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor and who try to help the violated. The fact you feel the need to point in all directions and try to steer attention away from where we should be paying attention to is in itself a despicable act, only the logical conclusion I am left with is that you somehow feel aligned with russia and it’s war path against others. You created a moral outrage where other should feel bad but the only thing you have truly done is put a stain on your character. Pathetic and shameful to be basically rooting for russia at this point.
US is a murderous invader that has invaded Iraq, Afganistan in my lifetime and continues to bomb many places on earth.
Who will support victims of American agression?
Regardless of discussion, you whitewash the rusian terrorist war and support by china by saying “others did bad, ok to kill people now in ukraine”.
You are OK with war, what are you complaining about?
My complaint is that Americans are hypocrites doing the same. You whitewash your governments terrorist wars.
There you go again.
Start a thread and discuss hypocrisy in the world.
This is about china supporting russia who started a war and is mass killing people. And you use it to start whitewashing that by doing “whatabout!”
Bank is robbed. Gangsters get away. Another bank is robbed. You argue the gangsters need to roam free because the other gangsters got away. Not only that, you want to hide bank robbery #2 because you know you are friends were the gangsters that did it!
Hypocrisy. I don’t believe you understand that word at all.
Will there ever be a time when America’s terrorist wars are discussed? Or will you continue not to talk about America’s murders?
When can we expect George W Bush, Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice to be convinced of mass-murder?
You.start.a.thread.and.discuss.
What is so hard to understand? Take control over your desire to accuse, condemn, discuss, etc.
Instead of looking to others and wonder why the basterds across the isle did not start when you yourself sit by idle.
And yes, GE, Cheney, Rice : that whole cabinet should be brought to The Hague and prosecuted, 100%
What I will not do is entertain your topic changing and whataboutism.
whataboutism is the correct and healthy response to hypocrites.
This is nothing less than an admission of your idiocy. You do you.
You’re not wrong…
This is just more whataboutism.
Ofc it could be clearer. For example: The US invasion of Iraq was a an actually unprovoked invasion
You’re just late at learning about a border conflict at a time of horrible escalation and don’t have anything but imperialist propagandaof a meddling party to draw conclusions from.
And no I don’t have the emotional energy to spare to discuss it here I just want to signal much needed dissent to people stumbling over this thread
You prohibiting current actions because of <fill in the blank>. This attitude might seem nobel or informed but whatabout is your true argument and it gets you nowhere.
The fact you sow doubt on the invasion of Ukraine as ‘perhaps russia had a point to start killing civilians’ is despicable and tells me you are a russian puppet or bad faith actor, just to muddy the waters.
Imagine being against unjust invasions (and there is a point to be made for that) but when clear and present danger presents itself you use unjust invasions to justify the war of aggression perpetuated by russia. The irony probably slips right by you. Well, it would if your mindset is to ‘level’ all events as ‘the same’. Pathetic and dubious at best.
That’s a lot of talking for someone who wants to use clusterbombs…
See, now you start to unravel and show your true self. This talk about clusterbombs, which I never mentioned you pillock, is a current russian narrative to excuse the horrors perpetuated by the fascist russian army.
You just outed yourself russian puppet! 😂
US/NATO is the aggressor. Russia has liberated the people undergoing ethnic cleansing by Ukraine’s Nazis. Educate yourself. Grow up and get your head out of American propaganda.
Look here, another russian troll wanting to make fascist russia the good guy. The only good thing about russia is nothing, there is no good thing. A country of criminals and thugs. It will take a generation to repair the horror and criminal behaviour of that vile country.
Criminals, all of them. May russia collapse and turn to oblivion, we do not need that patch or moronic criminals in this world.
I’m Irish and not a troll. Where are you from?
Russia doesn’t meet the definition of fascism, Ukraine does.
Now just racism.
Look here, a troll pretending to be Irish. No shame, you have no shame. Defending the fascists from russia. What a pathetic little troll you are.
Why would you think I’d pretend to be Irish? We’re not big fans of imperialists.
You’re a racist bigot however. I’d rather be though of as a troll than be like you.
If this is the same blursty as on Reddit he was pretty active in one of the Ireland subs for a fair while. People will have different opinions to you occasionally