• helenslunch
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    8 months ago

    Guns are a tool that are made specifically to KILL PEOPLE

    And steak knives are tools that are designed to consume food but they still KILL PEOPLE all the same. Not sure what your point is.

    Yes, you do have a higher level of firearm freedom from the rest of the world, and that is exactly why you have a spree shooting problem

    Except we’ve ALWAYS had a higher level of firearm freedom. But these incidents have only been become popular in the last 30 years, in which time our firearm freedoms (and freedoms in general) have only seen more and more restrictions.

    US states with the highest level of gun violence are ALSO the states with the highest level of gun restrictions.

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      8 months ago

      My point is a gun can kill a LOT more people, a LOT faster, with LESS skill than any other comparable tool, which means more people can kill more victims before something is able to stop them, the kill count from a mass shooting is almost always higher than a mass stabbing. And good luck if you think your civilian firearms would be enough to take on your state of the art army. If the Army had the will to oppress its own citizens, it could, and whether or not its citizens were armed would factor very little in that will

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        8 months ago

        My point is a gun can kill a LOT more people, a LOT faster, with LESS skill than any other comparable tool

        You mean like…a truck? Like the French one that was used to kill and maim way more people than any gun in American history?

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          8 months ago

          This is such a bad faith argument. If trucks were the supreme killing instrument then each soldier would be issued a truck.

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            8 months ago

            The only “bad faith argument” is you pretending not to understand why that makes zero sense.

            The difference is guns are better suited to destroying a specific target. But these people obviously aren’t targeting anyone at all.

            If you lined up a street full of ISIL terrorists, the truck would be the far more effective weapon.

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          8 months ago

          To my knowledge, most countries require YEARS of training and certification in order to be able to drive a vehicle, for that very reason dumbass. Do mass vehicular murder incidents happen as much as mass shootings? No

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            8 months ago

            Let me get this straight; You think driver training teaches you how not to murder people…? Is that right?

            …and I’m the dumbass

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              8 months ago

              Lmao you have the critical thinking skills of a salamander, its adorable