Just some off the top of my head: Destiny, Deep Rock Galactic, Overwatch, and most recently Baldur’s Gate.

I received BG3 as a gift. I installed and loaded up the game and the first thing I was prompted to do is to create a character. There are like 12 different classes with 14 different abilities and 10 ability classes. The game does not explain any of this. I went to watch a tutorial online to try and wrap my head around all of this. The first tutorial just assumed you knew a bunch of stuff already. The second one I found was great but it was 1.5 hours long. There is no in-game tutorial I could find.

I just get very bored very quickly of analyzing character traits and I absolutely loathe inventory management (looking at you Borderlands). Often times my inventory fills up and then I end up just selling stuff that I have no idea what it does and later realizing it’s an incredibly valuable item/resource and now I have to find more.

So my question is this: Do you guys really spend hours of your day just researching on the internet how to play these games? Or do you just jump in and wing it? Or does each game just build on top of working knowledge of previous similar games?

E: General consensus seems to be all of the above. Good to know!

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    And what they’re saying is that those elements are fun to the people who play these games.

    In no way did I respond to that.

    Weighing different priorities to choose the best or preferred option for the future is flexing some very serious psychological muscles. Developing strategies to do it well is these types of people’s version of practicing 3 point shots.

    That’s all well and good but the game often doesn’t give you the knowledge required to make those choices thoughtfully. It feels like I’m expected to spend my days on internet forums and search engines just to figure out how to play the game.

    If that’s the case, that’s fine, I will just avoid the game. But I feel like there should be some sort of disclaimer in the store.

    Reading you complain about it

    I haven’t complained about anything. I just asked a question.

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      That’s all well and good but the game often doesn’t give you the knowledge required to make those choices thoughtfully

      This is a complaint. One that other commenters have addressed.

      It’s often an intentional and critical part of the vision of the game and why people play

      Elden Ring, specifically, hides information from the player on purpose, intending for them to discover things through experience.

      It doesn’t hold your hand at all and is arguably one of the better games in the last decade, in no small part due to features you are referencing.

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        This is a complaint.

        You are interpreting is as a complaint. But it is not. It is a relevant observation to the topic at hand.

        intending for them to discover things through experience.

        …through what experience? The experience of trawling wiki docs? Are they in the game or are they not in the game?

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          That particular decision was to keep them immersed in the game, and exploring.

          But back to your warning label topic, what do you expect that to look like?

          “E for e=mc^2”? Or “S for Seseme Street approved”?

          We already have shenanigans in the rating system, this would be monumentally worse.

          I am really curious what a metric for game complexity would even look like