• Empricorn
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    21 days ago

    We also have to overcome gerrymandering, which SCOTUS just said is legal (as long as the GOP pretends to disenfranchise people for political reasons rather than racial ones). At the same time, we need to overwhelm voter suppression with enough genuine votes that it isn’t effective. Same with the Electoral College, the illegitimate Supreme Court, and the Senate, which gives outsized influence to big, empty Red States and fight against the unlimited flow of dark money in politics…

    It can all still be done, but we have to all vote, donate, and volunteer, as well as be unified as you said. My big unity wish is messaging. No one can compete with Fox News because Right Wing media is very good at staying on-message and we’re a “big tent” party, but still; we have to be better at it…

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        23 days ago

        I’m sure the slaves would “never be freed”, women would “never work”, black people and woman would never vote", black people would “never have equal rights”, etc.

        Don’t let history get in the way of history.

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          23 days ago

          I would argue that while you’re correct you’re not 100% correct and overlooking a lot of nuances in history. If you want to look at it like that the empire fractured into two, there was a war and the winning side engulfed the other. None of the things you bring up as examples were accomplished with just unity and lobbying, all of these causes involved violence or the threat of violence. Don’t go over simplifying history, a lot of people died for those rights. I by no means am advocating for these liars or violence but history has proven liars like this can be very dangerous and should not be laughed off.

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            23 days ago

            Did you even pay attention to the comment I was responding to? Like how am I suppose to anticipate my response being applied to a completely different argument

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              22 days ago

              That’s why I did it! Did you read the comment you were responding to? Being applied to a completely different argument?

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                22 days ago

                I didn’t say you were wrong but I was adressing the defeatist part of their argument.

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                  22 days ago

                  Hey I’m just poking fun. That first comment was obviously a joke, you took it seriously so I ran with your logic and replied to you in the same way.