Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has warned that it was "inevitable" that "war" would come to Russia after authorities there were forced to temporarily close a busy Moscow airport following an overnight drone attack on the capital.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has warned that it was “inevitable” that “war” would come to Russia after authorities there were forced to temporarily close a busy Moscow airport following an overnight drone attack on the capital.

  • drathvedro@lemm.eeEnglish
    216·
    11 months ago

    It would increase the amount of soldiers on the battlefield about ten times and Ukraine would be completely fucked

      • drathvedro@lemm.eeEnglish
        28·
        11 months ago

        Can you spend at least a minute researching before making claims like that? Russia has like what, 300k soldiers on the field right now? There are 20 million people eligible for service. The whole reason Russia is not using those is that the majority of them are against war and would mutiny when called to it. But if Ukraine keeps poking, they might turn them against themselves.

        Make no mistake, Ukraine cannot possibly “win” this war, e.g. conquer Moscow, without foreign military intervention. Not with HIMARS nor with F16’s, nor with superior guns and training. They’re just *severely *outnumbered. Oh, and by the way, Russia has nukes, which is a bit of a problem. The best they can hope for is to push Russians back to 2014 borders after Crimean annexation, but not a bit more.

        • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          11 months ago

          Raw numbers do not a fighting force make. You said it yourself “the majority of them are against war and would mutiny when called to it”. If Russia had the manpower to field 10x the troops they have now, they wouldn’t have to keep loosening the restrictions on conscripts.

          Who the fuck ever said anything about conquering Moscow? Ukraine winning means making Putin stop being a cunt and trying to take over Kiev.

          Nukes are completely irrelevant to troop counts.

          • drathvedro@lemm.eeEnglish
            13·
            11 months ago

            If Russia had the manpower to field 10x the troops they have now, they wouldn’t have to keep loosening the restrictions on conscripts

            How is it related? The conscription law is an entirely different thing, it does not affect the amount of people eligible to serve

            Who the fuck ever said anything about conquering Moscow?

            Look above, the post that we are discussing right now is about Zelensky threating to take war to the Russian soil

            • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              11 months ago

              How is the ability to field troops related to the ability to field troops? Really? Having X million people eligible to serve doesn’t matter if none of them are willing to go die in another country (remember your comment about a mutiny?); and right now Russia is having trouble recruiting for Putin’s little adventure.

              “Take the war to Russian soil” doesn’t mean conquer Moscow. For fuck’s sake, that has never been Zelenzky’s goal and you know it.

              • drathvedro@lemm.eeEnglish
                12·
                11 months ago

                Because it’s not about the ability to field troops. They’ve increased the age of conscription to 30 years, but you don’t send conscripts to war, you send ones who completed the year-long service, and the age limit for those was always 50 years. We won’t see any new conscripts under this law for at least 2 years. But there won’t be that much of them really, because this change was designed to catch those who are otherwise healthy but avoided service altogether by getting a PhD.

                “Take the war to Russian soil” doesn’t mean conquer Moscow. For fuck’s sake, that has never been Zelenzky’s goal and you know it

                Then what *does *it mean? Why would you go to Russia if not for returning the attack? Why would you fly drones all the way to Moscow?

                • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  It would increase the amount of soldiers on the battlefield about ten times

                  Sure sounds like it’s about getting troops to the field.

                  It means exactly what this was, drone attacks on strategic targets to disrupt the Russian war machine. Only one side in this war is trying to invade a neighboring country. If you can’t even admit that, I really question your motivation here.