White is not the only high-level cyclist to die in Colorado in recent years. In 2020, Clif Pro Team racer Ben Sonntag was killed by a driver while on a training ride outside Durango. That driver was sentenced to serve jail time in late 2021. In 2021, U.S. masters champion Gwen Inglis was killed by a driver outside Lakewood, Colorado.

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      Never in a million years will you convince me that riding your bike along a busy road with no shoulder is safer then me driving down the same stretch of road in a vehicle.

      I don’t know if there are stats comparing the same specific road using different modes of transportation, but overall, driving has a higher death rate per capita than cycling. Even when the roads aren’t busy!

      Even the CDC states that "Age-adjusted motor vehicle traffic death rates were highest for motor vehicle occupants and lowest for pedal cyclists for the entire period (1999 to 2019) (SOURCE)

      You don’t need to be convinced, facts don’t care about what you or I think.

      If you want to exercise there are safer ways to do it. If you’re too dumb to see how dangerous it is then that’s on you.

      What about commuting? Running errands? Visiting a friend the next block over? If driving is demonstrably more dangerous, and only stupid people walk or cycle, what would you do in those cases? Just stay home?

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          We’re specifically talking about riding your bike down a busy road with cars.

          Nobody is riding bikes on freeways, if that’s what you’re implying. What do you consider “too busy”? 1 car per hour? 100? 1000?

          Rural roads, that is, farm roads with maybe a few cars an hour, like the roads that MANY cyclists use because they aren’t busy, can still kill cyclists because drivers are idiots.

          What about residential neighbourhoods where kids live and play (and where cars still end up killing people)? Still too busy for bikes?

          You’ve been blaming victims since your first comment, defending cars and relegating cycling to “extreme and crazy”. Yet you haven’t offered any solutions at all to what pedestrian and cyclists should do to perform their normal, daily tasks.

          I’m COMPLETELY open to solutions, but it sounds like you simply don’t want cyclists on the road… any of them. And that’s not a solution to anything except making all areas in every community less safe to be in.

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              If you don’t want to die from getting hit by a car THEN STAY OFF THE ROAD. Literally cycle anywhere else it isn’t that hard.

              So, help me to understand.

              Someone walks out of their home with a bike. Now what? Where do they ride if they already know the destination?

              I have zero sympathy for people who do stupid shit and die from doing stupid shit.

              Ironically, you consider anything except driving to be “stupid shit”, even though driving is more likely to get someone killed.

              And we won’t even get into the number of lives SAVED because of the health benefits that go along with cycling, or the health detriments that go along with driving – even if you aren’t the driver!

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              Dude. People get killed cycling on cycle paths too. Most accidents happen in cities, at intersections, not on calm rural roads. It is not that dangerous.

              You are promoting to not ride a bike at all really, i think a bicycling community is a strange place to do that.