White is not the only high-level cyclist to die in Colorado in recent years. In 2020, Clif Pro Team racer Ben Sonntag was killed by a driver while on a training ride outside Durango. That driver was sentenced to serve jail time in late 2021. In 2021, U.S. masters champion Gwen Inglis was killed by a driver outside Lakewood, Colorado.
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Nonsense. Cycling isn’t dangerous, including cycling on the road, unless it’s a poorly maintained road.
People who don’t know how to drive their motor vehicle are dangerous, and consistently so. The only difference is that their inability to drive kills tens of thousands of people a year, including themselves and their family.
And there’s no way to predict whether someone in a car is going to cross a lane, drive off a road, maybe crash into the front of your home, or through a bus stop, or drive through a barber shop.
By sheer matter of fact, ANYWHERE you find drivers, you have danger.
The question is, why blame the victims of these drivers? You want so badly to shift the blame onto anyone but the person actually responsible for causing an accident.
I go above and beyond my duty as a driver, cyclist, and pedestrian. Having this perspective gives me every right to criticize drivers, because drivers are the problem most of the time. And when cyclists are at fault for causing an accident, I blame them, too.
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Yes, very safe when drivers are not speeding, not dangerously passing, and paying attention.
In other words, when drivers are driving like they are expected to, there’s no conflict.
What’s so hard to understand?
Oh, I know. To you, it doesn’t matter how safe cycling is, because when a driver decides to be an inattentive moron and kills someone, you’ll blame cyclist and pedestrians anyway.
What’s your agenda? Do you work in the auto industry?
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Now we’re getting somewhere! Up until this point, you’ve assigned those “dumb things” to the people not driving cars. But they aren’t “accidents” when a driver is speeding, making dangerous passes, or not paying attention. That’s negligence causing bodily harm and/or homicide. Real crimes with real consequences.
Getting hit by a motorist doing dumb things isn’t a crime, it’s a result of a crime. That person is the victim.
You haven’t acknowledged this. You’ve only assigned blame to the victim.
We expect planes to not fall out of the sky, yet nobody blames someone for getting hit by a falling plane.
Cycling is safer than driving. This is reality. The times when it is not safe (but still SAFER than driving) it’s very often because of people in cars. That’s a fact. You can choose to use a more dangerous form of transportation, like a car, but don’t act like cycling is the more dangerous of the two options.
Seriously, as I’ve already illustrated quite a few times already, it’s not about “cycling around cars”, but simply being around cars that puts EVERYONE at risk. Standing, walking, watching TV in your home, getting a hair cut, waiting for a bus… every action near cars has the potential to be dangerous because of the cars, not the action!
Your solution punishes victims, rather than address the cause.
This thread had run its course. Good luck with everything.
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