I really enjoy Linux but I find myself having to keep Windows partitions around for software that specifically requires Windows.

Proton makes everything easier by automatically running game files through a translation layer, and it “just works” quite well most of the time.

Also VanillaOS can apparently auto-spin a container when you try to open a .deb or AUR package (this is my rudimentary understanding).

Setting up WINE/Bottles, etc. is above my pay grade.

Is it not possible to create an OS that just does the same thing as Steam but for the entire OS?

  • helenslunchOP
    36·
    4 months ago

    Wine doesn’t work. I don’t know why.

    I am sure you are aware that windows softs are made for windows

    I don’t even know what “softs” are.

    it is a bit odd to expect a different OS to handle exe files perfectly

    I don’t. And I didn’t imply that I did. I’m just asking a question.

    • Aelis@beehaw.org
      91·
      4 months ago

      Regarding Wine not working, if you feel overwhelmed with that and really need help, just make another post or edit this one and specify :

      • what Linux distro you are using
      • what windows software you’d like to run on Linux
      • what it is you are trying and failing to do exactly (as precisely as you can, you might get even better answers that way)

      Otherwise you will get chaotic and vague answers that might not even apply to you. But frankly, some softwares you might still need windows for them, or you could find an alternative (if you can, if it exists alternativeto.net is your friend in that regard). It really depends on what you are using.

      Also I get it can be bothersome to deal with and frustrating, but mostly this kind of stuff you configure it once and then it’s done. So it might still be worth it.

      • helenslunchOP
        29·
        4 months ago

        Regarding Wine not working, if you feel overwhelmed with that and really need help, just make another post or edit this one and specify :

        I don’t work in product support at WINE. If it doesn’t work, I’m just not going to use it. I assume there is some sort of OS config that needs to happen but even looking at the support material it’s nothing but a bunch of jargon I don’t understand and terminal commands that don’t work.

        • wim@lemmy.sdf.org
          152·
          4 months ago

          If that’s your attitude, then I don’t think this is going to work out.

          Wine is not a company. People building and fixing Wine to support a specific piece of software are largely volunteers. Noone works at Wine. Noone does product support. It’s a free service created by volunteers.

          That’s how most Linux software gets built. And none of these people owe you anything. No support, no easy to use config.

          Frankly, you sound incredibly entitled and unwilling to listen and learn to everyone here who’s tried to help you.

          To answer your original question: there’s no one global way to make Wine run all software out of the box. That’s why Valve spends so much time tuning different setups of Wine for all the games they support. CodeWeavers to some extent does that for non game software.

          Doing this for the wide variety of Windows software out there is an impossibly large task and frankly out of scope for what most Linux distributions have as a goal or intended use case. If you want to run Windows software on Linux, there are many different projects that try to package or help you install the most popular things. But other than that, you’re free to try on your own.

          • helenslunchOP
            310·
            4 months ago

            Wine is not a company.

            Yes I am aware.

            Noone works at Wine.

            So WINE was just imagined into existence? Or maybe it was a wizard with a magic spell?

            And none of these people owe you anything.

            Why do people get so uppity when I simply ask questions? I never claimed that anyone owed me anything. I never asked for anything.

            Frankly, you sound incredibly entitled

            That is literally nothing but personal projection.

            and unwilling to listen and learn to everyone here who’s tried to help you.

            I am unwilling to learn. I’ve wasted hundreds of hours trying to learn to use Linux for basic tasks after everyone assured me it was “so easy” and not gotten anywhere. I’m done trying to learn.

            there’s no one global way to make Wine run all software out of the box.

            Someone posted Zorin OS elsewhere, which appears to be exactly what I asked for.

            • Muehe@lemmy.ml
              31·
              4 months ago

              So WINE was just imagined into existence? Or maybe it was a wizard with a magic spell?

              GP is simply wrong on this one. While it is an open source project with a lot of volunteer involvement, there are companies like CodeWeavers and Valve which directly or indirectly contribute to development. You can get support from CodeWeavers AFAIK, but that means paying them.

              Why do people get so uppity when I simply ask questions? I never claimed that anyone owed me anything. I never asked for anything.

              Well you did ask for something, which is replies to your questions. And your reaction to those replies, whether intended or not, comes off as “uppity” as well. Hence the downvotes and hostility (not to say that I support that from either side of the conversation).

              I am unwilling to learn.

              Then why are you wasting peoples time with asking questions?

              I’ve wasted hundreds of hours trying to learn to use Linux for basic tasks after everyone assured me it was “so easy” and not gotten anywhere. I’m done trying to learn.

              Running software on an OS it wasn’t made for is anything but a basic task. Try running various Linux software on Windows and you will see. If you want to run software made for Windows easily the way to do that is using the version of Windows it was created for.

              What people mean by “basic tasks” is usually browsing and office, and there is Linux-native software for that.

              Someone posted Zorin OS elsewhere, which appears to be exactly that.

              Not really. It has deeper integration of Wine into the system by default, but it is still a Linux OS running a compatibility layer for Windows software. This will not save you if you are unwilling to learn, there will still be various problems. Some software will simply not work, or only partially work, or require additional configuration to work.

              In summary, if your definition of “basic tasks” is running arbitrary Windows software then doing it on Windows is the way to go.

              • helenslunchOP
                11·
                4 months ago

                Then why are you wasting peoples time with asking questions?

                Getting answers to a simple question (which I have) doesn’t require learning.

                Running software on an OS it wasn’t made for is anything but a basic task.

                Never said it was.

                Not really. It has deeper integration of Wine into the system by default,

                Which is exactly what I inquired about so yes, really.

                but it is still a Linux OS running a compatibility layer for Windows software.

                I’m aware. I didn’t ask for anyone to make Linux run Windows applications natively.

            • BreakDecks@lemmy.mlEnglish
              32·
              4 months ago

              I am unwilling to learn.

              This is the only thing you’ve said that matters. Nobody should ever make any effort to help you, because you expect to spoonfed like a baby.

              • helenslunchOP
                2·
                4 months ago

                And yet I already have been “spoonfed” the answer I was looking for. Twice now. It wasn’t hard either. And didn’t require any additional learning.