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    “cHyNa hAs bEen pOuRing a LoT oF mOneY inTo poRpragAnDa” mf looking at a map made in 10 minutes by a random communist

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      To these people “Chinese propaganda” is anything that shows China in a positive light, but is also something so obvious that a toddler could spot it as propaganda. They’re so damn smug, they think all “propaganda” is incredibly easy for their enlightened western minds to see right through, if they don’t see it, it isn’t propaganda, like if it agrees with them.

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        Nowadays to these people just being showing Chinese people being happy is propaganda.

        But what else would one expect from Reddit, where they talk about the Chinese in the same manner that stormfront talks about Jewish people.

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        It’s the joke where a CIA agent tells a KGB agent that his country has very good propaganda, but when the KGB agent compliments American propaganda, the CIA agent responds: “You’re mistaken, we don’t have propaganda in America.”

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    lmao at this comment

    Google doesn’t return anything for the “Langley Center for Democracy Studies”, the purported source of this map.

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    I have some notes:

    • What’s up with Pakistan and Syria getting higher rankings than Iran or India?
    • Iraq more democratic than the US: mission-accomplished-1 mission-accomplished-2
    • Marking Taiwan as a full democracy was a nice touch.
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    I think that Bolivia is more of a flawed democracy than a full democracy? Bolivia isn’t yet socialist, and elements of the far-right government are still in power.

    Edit: Same for Venezuela

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      I don’t know about Bolivia, but Venezuela ironically has zero pretensions of being a socialist country; there are no mentions of Marx or Marxism in their constitution. It’s just that they pissed off the US really hard by daring to be a sucdem country while operation condor was in full effect and while they wanted to force neoliberalism into latin america. They also reverted the US backed coup almost instantly.

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        Hugo Chavez and Maduro have praised Marxism and Marx IIRC, but they’ve also both said I think that they aren’t absolutely committed to Marxism, but that socialism is a long-term goal.

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          By “socialism” they mean something very different from what marxists mean. This isnt a dig at them or anything, but Venezuela inst really a communist project like China, the USSR or even Chile under Allende.

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            I understand what you are getting at, but I don’t think Venezuela eschews Marxism or class struggle, at least.

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      Pretty much but this is to be expected with government run by Democratic Socialists. They still believe in electoralism and dealing with the far-right in your government is par the course for them.

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        Despite their pronouncements, I’m not sure if Chavez or Maduro actually believe in Democratic Socialism, or that their productive and militarized forces aren’t sufficient enough to challenge the Venezuelan bourgeoisie and criminal elements.

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    I am from Azerbaijan and they claim my country is a hybrid regime. Motherfucker hybrid of what? a dictator and an absolutist??? I firmly believe western north korea fans are actually mentally unstable in the head. What is wrong with you people? Did you not learn from Soviet Union? Human greed is unstoppable

    That’s it guys, shut down lemmygrad. Human greed is unstoppable. Lenin was wrong. We are not right in the head.