I get the frustration and I, too, agree with the criticism being thrown at Biden. I just suppose I don’t see how people object to the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils when the consequence is the greater of two evils retaking power.
I have to believe most people making those types of arguments are either single-issue voters who think Trump will be better for Palestine, or they are not members of vulnerable classes (e.g. immigrants, women, LGBTQ+, non-Christians, racial minority groups) whose rights would be imperiled by a Trump presidency, and therefore have nothing to lose.
Edit: Wow this was holding positive yesterday and now we’re at -10. Guess the downvote trolls were out in full force while the US slept.
I just suppose I don’t see how people object to the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils when the consequence is the greater of two evils retaking power.
Because he’ll lose! That’s the objection. It’s a losing strategy. Trump is the greater evil, and he’s winning because Biden is not doing enough to win votes. People had a reason to vote against Trump four years ago, but now they have reasons to vote against Biden. Anybody willing to vote for Trump is not a reasonable person, but far too many reasonable people won’t bother to show up because they don’t have a reason to vote for Biden.
I don’t think you’re wrong to think one poll in isolation is not very valuable. But they are the only predictive measure we have, and they have consistently placed Trump ahead in critical swing states.
Now maybe they are all completely wrong. But I think keeping Trump out of power is too important to just ignore all the information we have right now.
I’ll happily come back here and donate $100 to a charity of your choosing if it turns out you’re right and the polls were way off, and Biden wins every swing state in a landslide. I would love to be wrong.
he’s winning because Biden is not doing enough to win votes.
far too many reasonable people won’t bother to show up because they don’t have a reason to vote for Biden.
That’s the part I am hung up on, I guess. Anyone who has the power to prevent another Trump presidency but isn’t willing to show up in November to do so is not a reasonable person.
If Gaza is the only thing preventing would-be Biden voters from voting in November, these are people who must otherwise not give a shit about LGBTQ+ people, about immigrants, about bodily autonomy, or about the separation of church and state.
So if the Pro-Palestine crowd feels comfortable throwing in their cards with Trump, essentially allying with the Pro-Israel crowd who are also beginning to move away from supporting Democrats in general by some ass-backwards line of reasoning, then they’re every bit as bad as any other MAGA conservative in my book.
I get the frustration and I, too, agree with the criticism being thrown at Biden. I just suppose I don’t see how people object to the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils when the consequence is the greater of two evils retaking power.
I have to believe most people making those types of arguments are either single-issue voters who think Trump will be better for Palestine, or they are not members of vulnerable classes (e.g. immigrants, women, LGBTQ+, non-Christians, racial minority groups) whose rights would be imperiled by a Trump presidency, and therefore have nothing to lose.
Edit: Wow this was holding positive yesterday and now we’re at -10. Guess the downvote trolls were out in full force while the US slept.
Because he’ll lose! That’s the objection. It’s a losing strategy. Trump is the greater evil, and he’s winning because Biden is not doing enough to win votes. People had a reason to vote against Trump four years ago, but now they have reasons to vote against Biden. Anybody willing to vote for Trump is not a reasonable person, but far too many reasonable people won’t bother to show up because they don’t have a reason to vote for Biden.
I agree with everything else you said.
Polls basically don’t mean shit. The suggestion that Trump is winning is completely nonsensical.
I don’t think you’re wrong to think one poll in isolation is not very valuable. But they are the only predictive measure we have, and they have consistently placed Trump ahead in critical swing states.
Now maybe they are all completely wrong. But I think keeping Trump out of power is too important to just ignore all the information we have right now.
I’ll happily come back here and donate $100 to a charity of your choosing if it turns out you’re right and the polls were way off, and Biden wins every swing state in a landslide. I would love to be wrong.
That’s the part I am hung up on, I guess. Anyone who has the power to prevent another Trump presidency but isn’t willing to show up in November to do so is not a reasonable person.
If Gaza is the only thing preventing would-be Biden voters from voting in November, these are people who must otherwise not give a shit about LGBTQ+ people, about immigrants, about bodily autonomy, or about the separation of church and state.
So if the Pro-Palestine crowd feels comfortable throwing in their cards with Trump, essentially allying with the Pro-Israel crowd who are also beginning to move away from supporting Democrats in general by some ass-backwards line of reasoning, then they’re every bit as bad as any other MAGA conservative in my book.