Elon Musk telling the world he’s never been to therapy as if his wretched life isn’t a giant monument to that obvious fact. Oh, really, Elon? Wow! You seem so well-adjusted! How do you do it??
Damn right. But at least it gives me a chance to tell people to get help if they need it and not be afraid to do it because it somehow seems unmanly.
I definitely read it as a warning. Oh right, that guy never went to therapy. I should book my next appointment.
“Beware of unhinged ghost, WILL BITE!”
Imagine the privilege, people that need therapy often cannot afford it. What an asshole.
The phrasing.
“Never went to therapy.”
Not “Never needed therapy.”
“Never went” implies you were supposed to go.
“What happened with therapy, Elon?”
“I never went.”
Every single thing this man has ever said publicly has implied he’s supposed to go.
“What happened with therapy, Elon?”
“I never went.”
I’ll bet that’s a lie. I bet he went once, was called out on his bullshit, tried to outsmart the therapist who ran circles around him, and felt uncomfortably vulnerable. Then, instead of confronting his issues and doing the hard work, he decided that therapy was just woke bullshit that only “”“females”“” need. Out of shame for either turning to therapy in the first place or failing at it, he boldly proclaimed this on his personal propaganda platform so that everyone would know what a genius, manly, alpha-male, gigachad he really is.
The sad thing is there is a very real chance this is true and he won’t ever get the help he needs.
literally the therapy scene in Succession where Logan Roy says “Everything I did, I did for my family,” and is absolutely rocked when he doest “win” and the therapist doesn’t instantly proclaim them cured.
“Never went” implies you were supposed to go.
since we are doing semantics, this is incorrect. “never went” does not imply anything
It’s weak to have a problem and deny it. Toxic masculinity is a show of weakness not strength.
Agree 100%. Sadly, we have people like Elon and Trump pushing toxic masculinity and so many men buy into it.
With pretty much everything in human behaviour, if a person makes a grand show about how they’re so <some human quality>, they’re almost certainly overcompensating because deep down they themselves don’t believe it.
FYI- Jason Kander dropped out of politics to seek help for his PTSD. He now works to house homeless vets and help Afghans fleeing the Taliban. He’s pretty badass IMO. https://martincitytelegraph.com/2024/02/18/whatever-happened-to-jason-kander-hes-been-operating-daring-rescues-overseas/
While he was in politics he also dropped some insanely good political ads. All around legend.
That may be the most American political ad I’ve ever seen.
Cool! I knew nothing about him. Thanks for the background!
“never went to therapy”
Oh so that’s why he is the way that he is
It’s funny because, viewed at the correct angle, Elon’s tweet is actually saying something truthful: if you don’t get help, it’ll be the reason you die an early death
Right? This tweet screams, “Be just like me! Avoid therapy and slowly lose everything in your life including the last shred of your dignity.”
First thing I thought. I bet you his cronies won’t see it that way.
Elon’s tweet is a great advertisement for therapy.
The bravest/manliest thing one can say is “help”
It’s not giving up. It’s refusing giving up.
The masculine narrative goes something like “if you ask for help, you’re too weak to achieve what you want and get your shit together by yourself”
I’d like to look at it from a different perspective. There’s a lot we can reach on our own - but with a little push, we can do much greater things and end up being way better to ourselves and others. We also retain contact with society, combating narcissism and alienation that lets us down.
Wanna show how strong you are? You better not stand in the mud, then.
At the end of the day, it’s the effect we cause on this world that matters, not whatever shit is in our heads. And for the former, you do need support.
Elaborate it further: the biggest muscle growth is achieved with those 1-3 reps you need a workout buddy for, compared to those reps the other 40 are nothing.
True!
Uh the types of people who don’t believe in therapy also don’t believe they need a spotter…
i talked to my therapist a few weeks ago at the end of a session, and he told me that narcissists seldom go to therapy - if they go, it’s because they feel that everyone out there is wronging and belittling them.
they have low self-esteem, which doesn’t feel good - but they can put others below them, which feels nice for them. it’s a personal insult if someone else knows something better.
in the view of the narcissist, the therapist as a professional is insulting them every session, which results in them insulting and belittling the therapist. it takes years to make any progress.
i compared it to a garage project for tinkerers, something you don’t expect to ever work - he loudly burst into laughter and agreed with my analysis.
I can’t shake the feeling that Elon is a garage project for tinkerers.
Dudes with hair plugs don’t get to therapy shame others.
Nepo baby born with an emerald spoon in his mouth and spent his life failing upwards acts like therapy is a character flaw.
It’s actually extremely smart of him to tweet this!
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Once the guillotines come out, he’ll probably be one of the first to go. Good idea to get your tombstone figured out now, Elon!
This.
Going to therapy might help and if it doesn’t, then at least you tried but if you think that therapy is for the weak, then you absolutely need to go for it.
For those who might already think they know what their issue is it still helps to go and recognize it too.
For me, I already knew I was my own worst enemy, and all of my depression stems from my own incompetence and failure. Talking didn’t help in that respect, failure is failure, but I least I know that it’s not a “chemical imbalance” thing after trying meds, it’s a “I hate being a joke of a human” thing lol
Did it help at all to have someone understand where you’re starting from and thus be able to congratulate you and give you praise for whatever small victories you had on your path to self improvement? I think therapists can be incredibly helpful when someone is trying to start from ground zero and just needs to hear a sincere “good job I am proud of you” for something as simple as passing up an opportunity to be an asshole.
For some people it might help, but for me it just felt silly to be praising simple “nonsense.” Thankfully I don’t have the issue of having to hold back from being a jerk unless it’s directed at myself, then I can be a gigantic raging asshole. It’s a big part of my “own worst enemy” issue lol
Thankfully I don’t have the issue of having to hold back from being a jerk unless it’s directed at myself
I like how you provided a perfect example of this earlier just prior in your comment. (Hope this comes off as a light hearted joke. If not I apologize in advance. :) )
but for me it just felt silly to be praising simple “nonsense.”
Why do you feel your own accomplishments, no matter how meager are “nonsense”?
No need to apologize! I appreciate the concern anyway lol
There are some things I consider to be so “bare minimum” that it’s just expected to be done. I’m imagining being congratulated for doing laundry or something, that’s something bare minimum that needs to be done. In my example it could just be not beating myself up over something I failed at, it’s not really something to praise it’s just something you’re supposed to do.
I do understand how hard it is for people with depression to want to do anything, or to change how they see themselves, but I just feel like a child for “getting a gold star” because I cleaned my apartment or something.
I’m sure it works for some people, but for me it felt condescending or something.
In my example it could just be not beating myself up over something I failed at, it’s not really something to praise it’s just something you’re supposed to do.
Why isn’t people doing what they’re supposed to do worthy of praise? Can you tell me about what things are worthy of praise? Have you dissected where the distinction lies between what is worthy of praise and what’s “just something you’re supposed to do”?
I read the above aloud to myself and I recognize it could potentially sound accusatory or disagreeable. I am not trying to change your mind here but I am curious about the underlying though process.
I guess I tend to see things as good, bad, or neutral and a lot of the “bare minimum” things fall into that neutral category. It’s not good or bad, it’s just what you’re supposed to do, kind of like going to work. It’s not worthy of praise that I went to work. I need money to live, they need labor, so I go to work and they pay me. It’s not good or bad. Sure there are ethics involved the deeper you go like “it’s bad to call out sick when you’re not sick” so going to work is “good” if juxtaposed to that, but I think you could spend an eternity breaking things down more and more like that lol
Worthy of praise would be more “difficult,” to keep with the work thing just doing my job isn’t worthy of praise, but accomplishing something “more,” maybe solving a problem or fixing something that’s not the standard for your job would be worthy of praise.
For those who might already think they know what their issue is it still helps to go and recognize it too.
To add to this, I learned from therapy that diagnosis is only the first step. There’s medication but also learning techniques that allow you to function in daily life.
I would genuinely rather be myself and live paycheck to paycheck than be rich and have to be Elon Musk. Once you get over how infuriating he is, he’s just so deeply pathetic.
I agree. He may be fabulously wealthy, but he also has no real friends because he’s both loathsome and because people that rich don’t have friends. They have sycophants, people who can make use of them and people that are paid to pretend to like them.
Financially, things aren’t terrific, but I’ll also take that over being Elon.
Isn’t one of the very few pathways for an ASD diagnosis through a psychologist. (i.e. therapy)
The guy went on SNL and told everyone that he has Asperger’s Syndrome. So, he is either lying about that or never going to therapy.
He’s self-diagnosed. He also thinks it excuses all of his awful behavior.
tbf a lot of quirky “neurodivergent” tweens online are also self diagnosed and use it to justify their own selfish/immature behavior
the only difference is that you’re supposed to be insufferable as an adolescent and you’re supposed to grow up and out of it, not be proud you’re in a perpetual state of arrested development well into middle age and beyond
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Being more “manly” than Elon is a fairly low bar.
Bro has more gender confirming procedures then most trans women I’ve met.
Are you telling me Elongs hairline didn’t magically come back through sheer masculinity ?
