• glassware@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    This is why I can’t do online left wing spaces any more. They talk the talk about ableism, but then its “why can’t you boycott the only food you can eat, just eat something else”, “you could talk to service workers if you wanted to, you just think you’re better than them”.

    Then sharing a video of people with their fingers in their ears at a black music festival with a caption calling them racists, when they’re clearly autistic people enjoying the festival but having sensory problems.

    I blame the popular understanding/misunderstanding of neurodiversity. People think autism is just a personality type.

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      “you could talk to service workers if you wanted to, you just think you’re better than them”

      As a service worker, don’t talk to me any more than you have to

      (edit): Felt the need to elaborate on this. It’s not that I resent having to talk to you or anything, it’s that we’re human too and we’re prone to the same anxieties our customers are. Some of us are social butterflies, but for me it gets exhausting after a while, so it’s annoying when people talk to me about things that aren’t related to how I can help them. It’s hard enough for me to converse with people I’m actually friends with!

      There’s nothing you can throw at me that I won’t be able to help you with, so don’t be scared to come to me. But unless you’re telling me you like my hair or my outfit or something, I’d rather jump straight into helping you with what you need.

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      Well, that and the weird obsession with autocracy because they can’t admit that their folk heroes might have actually just been assholes who did more to harm leftist movements than any western opposition ever did.

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        That, the other thing, and resorting to campism to immediately choose simple, identity-based positions over complex ones that are more coherent with specific ethical principles. At least there’s people who get everything right, even if they aren’t too many.

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      People are fake. A lot of online spaces outside of spots like Facebook (which is Gen X/boomer territory) are more so left leaning, so a lot of people tend to spout what they think is popular. Some might believe it but won’t put any efforts into practicing those beliefs, while others just simply don’t believe what they’re sharing.

      Pride month is a good example of this. As soon as the months over most people who were spamming their socials with all sorts of LGBT support messages could care less.

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      7 months ago

      And don’t you dare tell a vegan you can’t drink anything with plant milk!

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        Being unable to drink plant milk doesn’t make drinking cows milk okay.

        Just don’t drink cows milk? It isn’t essential for your diet anyway.

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          There are quite a lot of days cows milk is literally the only source of calories that doesn’t make me vomit from the intensely unpleasant sensory experience all other food gives me. So no, I’m not going to stop drinking it.

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          Drinking cow milk is ok. You not liking that dont change that, or that nw Europeans are literally evolved to drink it.

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              Yeah, it is. You’re literally whining about a food an ethnic group has literally adapted to, that comes from a selectively bred animal not found in the wild, and the reason that ethnic group survived.

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                Missing the point.

                The fact that the cows are being exploited at an industrial scale is abhorrent.

                Typical carnist dickhead trying to justify enslavement.

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                  (looks at the dairy down the road) yeah, stfu, They’ve not a bad life compared to either not existing or dying in a hard winter. But rest assured. I am a carnist dickhead. If the winter gets rough I’ve no problem eating you, Grass fed tastes better anyways. The muscle fat ratio is similar to hogs. you’ll make good bacon. Ethical issues about these things are really in movies for effect, real life, no one cares that ain’t been pampered to a ridiculous degree all their lives. Ive not yet met one, vegan, farmer. you’re a city creature of flexible ethics that won’t look too closely into where the food comes from but will act superior.

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                    They shouldn’t be enduring a hard winter because they shouldn’t be bred by people in the first place.

                    Dairy cows get abused often on farms. You’re either not seeing news about it, or you’re willingly ignorant.

                    You haven’t met a vegan farmer? Wow that’s so strange! I’ve never met an atheist Christian before, but I’m sure they’re out there.

                    I am a city creature, but I’ve chosen not to participate in the exploitation of animals for ethical reasons, what’s wrong with that?

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                If your ethnic group only survived because they adapted to cannibalising their young during famines, would you eat babies

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      It realy depends which places you are. I personaly really prefer Anarchist/Punk spaces. (I am obviously a Anarcho-(Solar)punk myself) and I have better experience there than else where. I still run sometimes in difficulties but most go quickly a way by explaining my position as an Aspie. And ask them to explain why they think this is true. Tbh I don’t know much how it is in auth left spaces (it is suposed to be worse not only for neurodivers people) but tankies can fuck of anyway.

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      For that kind of thing I blame the cultural fact that today’s leftism is based on finding people to hate.

      They pride themselves in not hating groups, but they do spend about 93% of their mental/social/political efforts in identifying people who need punishment.

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      Idk what kind of left wing spaces yall find. Maybe if everyone didn’t think hexbear was the boogeyman they’d realize how accepting they are

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        Yep, super accepting, especially of Russian imperialism: “Instead of seeking peace our fascist government in Ukraine funds death squads in Russia to do terrorist attacks making the war worse”.

        And Chinese killings: “The Tiananmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie.”

        “As for the Uyghur thing, even western media has largely abandoned that point since it was too easy to see that no one was being killed”.

        Those are just a few heavily upvoted comments that I found within 5 minutes of opening their page.

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          I would say they’re “alt-left” in the derogatory sense.

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            Tankies aren’t leftists; I’ve yet to read a coherent and useful way of defining “leftist” that includes tankies as well as other groups that identify as such. That is to say, if we allow for the existence of entities that are mistaken or lie about being leftist, we are forced to exclude tankies.

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              But their unity-through-force ideology, which is totally not just an excuse to be edgy and feel morally superior, but really and truly a coherent belief system, is definitely practical and pure, and not some slighly skewed picture of fascism with a handful of socialist buzzword decals slapped on top.

              So, therefore, Left!

              . . .

              /s juuuuuuust in case

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            I looked through your comments to understand why you reacted like that, and I realized you’re either wildly politically illiterate or you can’t do math. When your supporting argument for Wyoming being underrepresented is “they have 1 congress person” instead of an argument about the number per population it’s kinda hard to tell which it is. The talk about the state being “big” makes me suspect it’s the former, however.

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                Take some number of citizens C.

                If the population of the state is P, let the number of Representatives ® be P/C, rounded up [R=ceil(P/C)].

                Note how land area is not a part of the formula.

                If Texas were the size of Detroit while maintaining the total population size, would you argue in favor of reducing their representatives to 1 or even 0?

                If the answer is yes, you need to take a civics class. Your question is like asking how much wax you need to make a crayon be blue; the hue of the crayon is entirely independent of the total amount of wax. Hopefully that’s an analogy you understand.

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        I’m trying to figure out if there’s a way to subscribe to whole instances.

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        Hexbear is better on this than most places to be honest. Surprising coming from a community that formed around Chapo, whose favourite insults are autistic and smooth brained.

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          I definitely see why the politics scare people away but if you say a slur they’re gonna dogpile you which is nice considering how prevalent it is elsewhere