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    Meh. You have no rejoinders to any of my specific examples, so you resort to insults and non sequiturs about things that weren’t accusations in the first place.

    If a Republican behaves like John McCain, who didn’t debase himself by hurling stupid accusations at his political opponents, why would you assume I’m lumping that sort of person in with the bullshit-accusations crowd?

    I said every accusation is a confession. How the actual fuck do you apply that to someone who isn’t throwing around bullshit accusations in the first place?

    Fuck outta here with that illogical claptrap. Goodbye forever? Great. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

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      Here you go, you brainwashed chucklefuck. You think I couldn’t Google every single senator and find accusations levied that aren’t a confession? Now tell me exactly how these are exceptions to your “nO eXcEpTiOnS” braindead take. Literally took 3 seconds to look these up, and you think not a single example exists across the entire political spectrum.

      I also note that you didn’t respond to my example of politicians that broke with trump and levied accusations at him, at the cost of their career. NO EXCEPTIONS DERRRR

      https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/john-mccain-rand-paul-rule-19-vladimir-putin/index.html

      https://time.com/5130826/john-mccain-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-fbi/

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna388036

      For the record, I fully expect you to walk this back and tell me how “WELL THESE ARENT THE ACCUSATIONS I MEANT, I MEANT SPECIFICALLY [X]” even though you literally left no room for interpretation, nuance, or exceptions. Which was my exact point, which you clearly do not understand, through the reddit-induced brainwashed fog

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          Yeah, I’m kinda done with him. He said he was done with me, after all.

          It’s too bad, because I’m pretty sure this is down to a combination of misunderstanding hyperbole and misunderstanding exactly who I was talking about.

          The John McCain links are evidence of that, because McCain never hurled unfounded accusations with ironic truths underlying them at anyone.

          If, for example, McCain had embraced birtherism, the fact that he himself was born outside of the United States would have been a textbook example. But McCain had too much integrity to do that, so doesn’t fit the profile of accuser/confessor.

          For the life of me, I don’t get what’s so hard to understand. The formula is simple: Stupid, mendacious accusation == confession about an ironic, underlying truth. No stupid, mendacious accusation? No ironic, underlying truth.

          C’est la vie, I guess.

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            The formula is simple: Stupid, mendacious accusation == confession about an ironic, underlying truth. No stupid, mendacious accusation? No ironic, underlying truth.

            Holy shit, introducing nuance? It’s almost like you understand my point and changed your argument to exactly what I suggested it should have been in the first place, but would never admit that you were wrong! Wow, I’m completely shocked!

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            Now I’d LOOOVE for you to tell me how

            “Every accusation…Every single one. No exceptions.” is the same as “stupid, mendacious accusation”. Cause non-“stupid, mendacious accusations” certainly sounds like the literal definition of an exception to “every accusation…every one”

            Betting you’ll sidestep or not answer tho lol

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          Repeatedly doubling down on your “100% no exceptions all Republicans are pure evil” is a path to a more divided America and is only one very small step away from calling for violence. I’m ok calling that person a braindead chucklefuck.