“Every previous president would have ended it by now.”

“Biden literally couldn’t do worse.”

  • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    7 months ago

    Your conscience can be a good indicator that something immoral is happening, but it’s certainly not infallible. While I think abstaining is a worse choice, the most egregious course of action being discussed is actively arguing against voting, which is actively harmful and supports multiple genocides including the one ostensibly being denounced by the people who act as such.

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      7 months ago

      I think everyone should vote. I’m just voting third party in this case

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        7 months ago

        I voted third party too once. I couldn’t in good conscience vote for either major party. I was living in Florida, and voted for Nader in 2000.

        I’ve not been so naive since.

        Did I not vote for the killing of children in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did I not vote for the curtailing of medical research? Did I not vote for the hundreds of millions that will die due to climate change?

        Learn from my mistake. Because the lessons you learn from yours may not be applicable given what will be lost by the time you realize what you’ve done.

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          7 months ago

          I hear you. And I appreciate your candor and politeness, which can be hard to ask for sometimes.

          I’m still planning on voting third party. I’ve voted dem every time since I could vote, I feel like I gotta draw a line in the sand somewhere. But! By golly, if he says he’s going to cut some of the money out of the police, and maybe tighten some things up in the Middle East, he’ll have me again. And he’s got months to do that! And I’m hoping. But if that effort isn’t made and he focuses on the center-right… I just can’t do it.

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            7 months ago

            The far right gets a lot of attention politically because they show up and vote Republican consistently.

            Progressives are generally ignored because they always have some reason their conscience won’t allow them to vote Democratic.

            If you aren’t a reliable voting block you can’t expect your platform to be given priority.

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            7 months ago

            You want very reasonable things in a unreasonable system.

            Youll either get the status quo as it stands, or you’ll get Dr. Fascismo doing away with free elections on top of an Eastern European genocide courtesy of trumps master, minorities being actively persecuted for just existing, and saying the things youre saying being documented and held against you as thoughtcrimes.

            The US is on the cusp of moving past the stain that is rhe baby boomer voting block that insists on unfettered neoliberalism and conservative social policy by and large. Thisd be the time to ensure we dont double down on it.