• nyctre@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    7 months ago

    No, the fact that a judge ruled that he raped someone is what protects one from a defamation suit. At that point you’re just quoting the judge

    • PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      Jury. A jury in 2023 found him liable for sexual abuse/defamation where Carol was awarded $5 million.

      https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db

      The verdict was split: Jurors rejected Carroll’s claim that she was raped, finding Trump responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse.

      This year, another jury awarded her an additional $83 million for defamation.

      I read three articles, and watched an NBC video, not one of them stated he was found liable for rape.

        • PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          We don’t need something to “sound like rape”. If he was guilty of it, meaning there was sufficient evidence, in the jury’s opinion, the jury would have found him guilty of it. I’m sure they weren’t looking to do him any favors. Obviously the defense failed to prove their case relative to rape.

          Now, did he do it? Probably. He’s a career criminal. But the line has to be drawn somewhere, and for me, if you’re found guilty of it, be it a criminal court room, or a civil one, that’s when I can safely say a person is what they’ve been found guilty of being.

          Take emotions and opinions out of it, and just stick to the facts. He’s guilty in a civil case of defamation and sexual abuse.

          • nyctre@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            7 months ago

            I don’t particularly care what the legal system calls something that’s pretty much impossible to prove. And I don’t understand why you’re using my words as if it’s legally relevant. I’ll quote the article, because I don’t think you’ve read it: “A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference.”

            • PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              I read three independent articles on the subject, including the one from last year, I don’t need to read a fourth.

              I find it interesting you admit something is difficult to prove, yet feel perfectly comfortable making accusations on the subject. I’ll stick to the facts, thanks, and leave my bias out of it.

              • nyctre@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                7 months ago

                I never claimed to know what he did. I’m pretty sure I didn’t even state what I believe. I only stated what the judge said. And the judge said he raped her.