TikTok is taking the US government to court.

  • demonsword@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    the US has many problems but it’s still a democracy

    Given the choice between hot shit and cold shit still ends with you being covered in shit. Heads or tails between two very similar parties hardly counts as a true democracy.

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      6 months ago

      This is incredibly disingenuous. The US might not be a true democracy, but it’s not an authoritarian regime. Xi and putin disappear people who have an opinion on whether they should be forever-rulers.

      The fact that independent parties exist and hold seats at all three levels of government mean you are fundamentally wrong in saying there are only two choices.

      The US is a flawed democracy. That’s still better than an authoritarian regime.

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        6 months ago

        Power in the US is held within an oligarchy and when they are threatened people get disappeared. There’s examples of that but one that’s being made an example of in broad daylight is Julian Assange

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      6 months ago

      While the US might be hot shit, it’s still our OWN shit. Keep your cold shit on your side of the pond.

      • istanbullu@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        I’m not an American. By your logic, let’s ban all American social media.

          • pressanykeynow@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            Just wondering why would you want to ban anything? Does banning something solve any problem that a normal person has? I mean if the ban wave is on it would be fair to ban anything that’s not open source but I do think censorship is cancer.

            • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
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              6 months ago

              I am not very comfortable with “banning” websites - let’s say outright dissolving some companies is probably the better approach, but also a double-edged sword. However, there is sometimes a need to legally shut down some entities.

              I believe that by now it should no longer be a subject of debate that social media has a very unhealthy influence on the public opinion, and that most humans do not have the intellectual capacity to critically reflect on the media they consume. That’s already a problem with some TV programs, and it has gotten worse with social media monetizing anger. As a result we get people who vote for politicians who promise them nothing short of a dictatorship. That’s incredibly dangerous, and therefore I would like to see all social media federated - centralized services give way too much power to individuals with shady motives.

        • jaschen@lemm.ee
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          6 months ago

          TikTok is a psyops software disguised as a social media application. Facebook is bad for other reasons. But psysops are not one of them.

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            6 months ago

            Facebook is bad for other reasons. But psysops are not one of them.

            You’ve obviously never heard of the Cambridge Analytica scandal. That meddled in our presidential election on behalf of a hostile foreign nation.

            There are also plenty of other examples of Facebook running psyop campaigns themselves on their own users. Your claim is demonstrably false.