It’s an issue with the game’s framing, where while it shows that none of the endings are good, no actual alternative is given. This naturally leads to less-evilism, and it’s not hard to see how that gets to the NCR. Like, if you have to choose 1 of 4, where the options are:
Fascism
“Libertarianism” (Fascism)
Personal Dictatorship by a bethesda protagonist
“Liberal Democracy” (Fascism with extra steps)
it’s easy to see how “liberal democracy” wins out, especially given that’s the base accepted political view in the real world. Yes the Followers might be nice, but they’re just not electable! You have to choose between Rome LARPers or the ideology that caused the apocalypse.
Okay sure, I did that too when I first played the game at age 15 or whatever. But it took one playthrough to be like “these guys are burgerland clowns and their bullshit benefits nobody”, so it didn’t take me long to decide that no choice is any good and the least bad option is to hold off all challengers basically.
I don’t view Wildcard as a personal dictatorship, I always took it that the Courier basically installs Yes Man for the security of the Strip, and then fucks (probably to The Divide) off a la the Vault Dweller and Chosen One. The endslides for Wildcard don’t make it sound like a personal dictatorship…
It’s been a while since I’ve seen the end slides so I went to check on the wiki, but the vault wiki is now on fandom and it crashed on loading twice
Anyway I don’t consider Yes Man running things to be much better given he doesn’t really value anything other than putting whoever’s talking with him in power.
Idk what a Yes Man vegas strip would look like, his bit about being secretly evil at the end is intended as a joke so Idk. I kind of assumed he’d just run strip security and stuff as usual?
I’m the Bethesda protagonist in this case, so me as a dictator is the best ending because I would push the communism button. I’m putting The Kings in charge of The Strip and will form a government with chosen members of The Followers and Mojave civilians.
It’s an issue with the game’s framing, where while it shows that none of the endings are good, no actual alternative is given. This naturally leads to less-evilism, and it’s not hard to see how that gets to the NCR. Like, if you have to choose 1 of 4, where the options are:
it’s easy to see how “liberal democracy” wins out, especially given that’s the base accepted political view in the real world. Yes the Followers might be nice, but they’re just not electable! You have to choose between Rome LARPers or the ideology that caused the apocalypse.
Okay sure, I did that too when I first played the game at age 15 or whatever. But it took one playthrough to be like “these guys are burgerland clowns and their bullshit benefits nobody”, so it didn’t take me long to decide that no choice is any good and the least bad option is to hold off all challengers basically.
I don’t view Wildcard as a personal dictatorship, I always took it that the Courier basically installs Yes Man for the security of the Strip, and then fucks (probably to The Divide) off a la the Vault Dweller and Chosen One. The endslides for Wildcard don’t make it sound like a personal dictatorship…
It’s been a while since I’ve seen the end slides so I went to check on the wiki, but the vault wiki is now on fandom and it crashed on loading twice
Anyway I don’t consider Yes Man running things to be much better given he doesn’t really value anything other than putting whoever’s talking with him in power.
Certified fandom moment!!!
Idk what a Yes Man vegas strip would look like, his bit about being secretly evil at the end is intended as a joke so Idk. I kind of assumed he’d just run strip security and stuff as usual?
change the url from “fandom.com” to “antifandom.com” and boom
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Also you can use indie-wiki-buddy to automatically redirect from fandom to independent wikis (if available) and a fandom mirror otherwise!
There’s an independent fallout wiki not based on Fandom: https://fallout.wiki/wiki/Fallout_Wiki
(sorry, I don’t know how to inline links)
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Thanks! (The auto-linker worked this time so you’re good lol)
I’m the Bethesda protagonist in this case, so me as a dictator is the best ending because I would push the communism button. I’m putting The Kings in charge of The Strip and will form a government with chosen members of The Followers and Mojave civilians.