It is the standard practices around the world. Factory farming in most countries accounts for over 97% of all meat and dairy. Even according to the USDA (which supports animal agriculture, so no bias) for the US, which is higher up to 99% for chickens comparatively than other countries. Australia, new zealand, europe, india, all use factory farming as the main standard. Even if factory farming isn’t common in a country like certain parts of europe, nearly all animal products that are consumed are imported from factory farms
How funny to show a graph in the trillions with population increase in metric to my purchases over the years. Capitalism is so big that estimations for lives saved a year can vary from 75-400+ depending on the person. They’re estimations, not approximations.
You do realize meat production increasing doesn’t directly mean being vegan hasn’t saved lives, correct? Sending a graph of total meat consumption means nothing.
saying it doesn’t make it so. the agriculture associations objected to the claims those are standard practices and so e of them were even already illegal.
Lol of course they want consumers to not know about their practices. Capitalism always cuts corners to get products and animals are seen as nothing less than that to mega farms. If you have specific questions about any specific country I’d be more than happy to provide you with the data. Also free range is a bogus term that barely increases space, even in a more “progressive” country like germany. They barely get any sunlight in free range and most of animal agriculture isn’t free range.
it’s not about standard practices, and it’s not well made
It is the standard practices around the world. Factory farming in most countries accounts for over 97% of all meat and dairy. Even according to the USDA (which supports animal agriculture, so no bias) for the US, which is higher up to 99% for chickens comparatively than other countries. Australia, new zealand, europe, india, all use factory farming as the main standard. Even if factory farming isn’t common in a country like certain parts of europe, nearly all animal products that are consumed are imported from factory farms
and being vegan changes none of that.
100% false. Carnism is to blame
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL
can you point on this graph to when you became a vegan?
How funny to show a graph in the trillions with population increase in metric to my purchases over the years. Capitalism is so big that estimations for lives saved a year can vary from 75-400+ depending on the person. They’re estimations, not approximations.
to be clear, being vegan has never decreased the amount of meat produced
You do realize meat production increasing doesn’t directly mean being vegan hasn’t saved lives, correct? Sending a graph of total meat consumption means nothing.
if more animals are killed, then being vegan doesn’t stop animals from being killed. qed
I’m uninvolved with farming
You fund it
no, i don’t
that video doesn’t show standard practices.
Lol yes it does. You think the animals live on some fairyland?
saying it doesn’t make it so. the agriculture associations objected to the claims those are standard practices and so e of them were even already illegal.
Lol of course they want consumers to not know about their practices. Capitalism always cuts corners to get products and animals are seen as nothing less than that to mega farms. If you have specific questions about any specific country I’d be more than happy to provide you with the data. Also free range is a bogus term that barely increases space, even in a more “progressive” country like germany. They barely get any sunlight in free range and most of animal agriculture isn’t free range.
you’re tilting at windmills, arguing with arguments that have nothing to do with what i’ve said.
I was explaining that they’re distrustworthy institutions and of course they’d tell a story of a happy paradise.
objecting to lies is not the same as telling a story of a happy paradise. you are strawmanning them.