After checking this website and other, I have found that these claims come from Radio Free Asia and others citing these so I am not sure. Haven’t found good sources talking about this.
The election result in Iran for a new president is a grim reminder that ultra-conservative Shia power concentration is in full swing. This concerns the new president being linked to the mass executions of 1988. These executions exceeded several thousands of people – some site tens of thousands – when the Iranian ultra-conservative clergy sought to crush all dissent. Hence, the electoral success of Ebrahim Raisi is bound to raise questions internationally.
Is this true or can I safely dismiss it?
It doesn’t matter.
It is a FACT that Iran has murdered many communists, especially in the aftermath of the successful Islamic revolution when they were solidifying power but also afterwards I’m sure.
It is a fact that Iran is run by reactionary socially backwards forces.
And it is a fact that it is never-the-less an important part of the international anti-imperialist bloc.
It is a fact that there is no near term hopes for a communist revolution in Iran, that if the current regime were to be overthrown that it would be by pro-US, pro-west compradors who’d sell out the people, sell out the region, and do their utmost to help the west destroy BRICS and the new emerging multipolarity. Thus that the best we can hope for is continued weakening of the US, of the zionist settler outpost occupying Palestine, and continuing growth of the power of China and Russia and that as that progresses there might be space for weakening of the grip reactionaries have on Iran over time.
There’s no particular reason to mourn the dead president of Iran. He was no progressive force and from what I’ve read was from the more conservative elements of the government. Neither is there reason to celebrate his death, which has not materially changed anything important. It won’t lead to better women’s rights or gay rights or tolerance of communists in Iran. He was but one part of a larger and entrenched state.
Very well said.
…I have found that these claims come from Radio Free Asia and others…
Then yes you can dismiss these claims with prejudice.
As the Citations Needed saying goes, “the atomic unit of propaganda isn’t lies, it’s emphasis.”
You can’t dismiss facts just because they come from a propaganda outlet; that’s contrarianism, not analysis. You want to be able to explain to people why propaganda outlets aren’t reliable, and much of the time the explanation lies in what they omit, not the accuracy of what they do report.
I didn’t dismiss anything, I refused to entertain it at all. Brandolini’s law, also known as the bullshit asymmetry principle, is an internet adage that emphasizes the effort of debunking misinformation, in comparison to the relative ease of creating it in the first place.
RFE is not entitled to any “analysis”.
You want to be able to explain to people why propaganda outlets aren’t reliable
That’s something that’s just a tautology, it doesn’t need explanation.
Then yes you can dismiss these claims with prejudice.
Lol you dismissed it, those are your words.
If RFA reports XYZ, and you say “oh I’ll just dismiss this because it’s misinformation,” but XYZ happens to be factually accurate, why would you expect people to listen to what you say? You’re wrong, RFA is right, at least at first blush. Yes, it takes effort to properly call bullshit.
Lol indeed. You were talking about specific facts. I was dismissing the entire publication outright, unread.
you say “oh I’ll just dismiss this because it’s misinformation,”
No I say that I refuse the acknowledge or spend any effort in entertaining a publication with such a poor reputation.
why would you expect people to listen to what you say?
Indeed. Entirely my point. You played yourself Mr lol.
yes you can dismiss these claims
I didn’t dismiss anything
You were talking about specific facts. I was dismissing the entire publication outright
Debate pervert shit
Idk, but one thing i am sure is that the US would be praising them for that, not condemning them 😅
Coming from RFA, this very well could be a psyop to manufacture consent from western leftist, as they always do.
Usually assuming the opposite of anything RFA says is a safe bet. If they had a weather section and told me it was sunny today, I would pack an umbrella.
EDIT: I have also never heard of Modern Tokyo Times despite living in Japan. Though at a glance I see…a single author that just reposts other articles. Doesn’t really inspire confidence.
The communists we should be mourning are the ones of the Tudeh party which were indeed executed by the Islamic government, although I’m not sure how much of a hand Raisi had in that. He is much more known for executions of MEK, which is not a communist group and is rather a US and Israeli-backed organization which has no real ideology other than opposing the IRI.
MEK aren’t communists and they deserved it
They executed much more than just MEK
okay, so anyone else who isn’t wahhabist or some crazy stuff didn’t deserve it
Yea, i ain’t sheding any tears for counter-revolutionaries in a relatively progressive revolution.
They were the leftists who DID the fucking revolution. The conservatives turned it into this reactionary government.
Just because you want to support Iran because of it’s efforts in Palestine and such doesn’t mean you have to actually support the IR
I can find Persian sources for you, but it is true. He was known as the butcher of 88
Those sources will certainly help for this discussion. Thank you!
