Ok so i seen a few of these sovcit things and i got a question. So these ppl basically hate everything corporate and state law and stuff, but yet they use every possible thing these have to offer and then dont get it when a “coupon” doesnt work?? I mean if they hate it all that much, why use it? But im probably missing something.
So as far as I can understand there is this whole crazy convoluted thought process that is the base of the sovcit thing.
It is conplicated and deranged but it can be boiled down to them thinking there is some sort of “cheatcode” to every interaction with public and official ententies. If they just use the right words and phrases they can get out of debt, avoid prosecution, get a free beer…
It’s nearly impossible to REALLY get ahead these days. Everyone seems to be just keeping their heads above water, so people are getting desperate. They’ve run out of good answers to their problems
They see a lot of people cheating each other and want to cheat the system themselves
It uses legalese that they don’t really understand, but they think they do and it makes them feel powerful to understand something you don’t
See point one. They don’t have legal options to solve their problems.
Let’s not forget that there are grifters out there selling this information. They’re cheating people.
I like to make fun of SovCits, especially the true believers. We just can’t forget that, even though they’re shitbags who want all the benefits of society with no responsibility, they’re still victims of even bigger shitbags.
I never thought about it but #2 is probably a huge one. They see their local business man make it through COVID with 3 false PPE loans and feel they missed out. Or they hear about the corrupt construction company owner in their town and they don’t blame them they just want to get a piece of the pie and they don’t know how until they’re told about sovereign citizenship.
Basically, they think you can make it through life without spending any money if you can just figure out the real world version of up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start.
They believe the law is a magic language, where if you learn the secret words and perform the secret rituals, you get to use shortcuts to bypass the normal rules. They see themselves as a secret society of law wizards, essentially. In some ways media has encouraged this by making contracts and such to be these arcane things with tricksy loopholes if you just figure out how to sneak through, but their belief goes far beyond what you might see in media.
They also hold lots of contradictory ‘logic’ and opinion. Like that the government/corporations/someone is trying to screw you, and yet for some inexplicable reason they will instantly capitulate and be powerless if you speak the right words. It really, really has parallels to the concept of binding demons and such with magical contracts with the right magical words. Or the fact that they believe these things to be secret-ish and relatively unknown except by their peers, but at the same time become outraged when every minor functionary of any government or company doesn’t immediately recognize their secret words and capitulate.
It’s as though the same sort of people who once believed in witchcraft and demons and all have adapted to the modern world where all that stuff is laughably false, but we all believe in ‘the law’ and ‘science’ and such, and therefore they come up with superstitions dressed in the clothes of law, but it’s still the same old stuff. It’s very similar to the bronze age man who sacrifices a goat or his daughter or whatever in order to get better crop yields.
Ok so i seen a few of these sovcit things and i got a question. So these ppl basically hate everything corporate and state law and stuff, but yet they use every possible thing these have to offer and then dont get it when a “coupon” doesnt work?? I mean if they hate it all that much, why use it? But im probably missing something.
So as far as I can understand there is this whole crazy convoluted thought process that is the base of the sovcit thing.
It is conplicated and deranged but it can be boiled down to them thinking there is some sort of “cheatcode” to every interaction with public and official ententies. If they just use the right words and phrases they can get out of debt, avoid prosecution, get a free beer…
It’s all really weird and confused.
And don’t forget signing in red at a 47.5° angle!
And a red thumbprint.
I think it’s a combination of a few things…
It’s nearly impossible to REALLY get ahead these days. Everyone seems to be just keeping their heads above water, so people are getting desperate. They’ve run out of good answers to their problems
They see a lot of people cheating each other and want to cheat the system themselves
It uses legalese that they don’t really understand, but they think they do and it makes them feel powerful to understand something you don’t
See point one. They don’t have legal options to solve their problems.
Let’s not forget that there are grifters out there selling this information. They’re cheating people.
I like to make fun of SovCits, especially the true believers. We just can’t forget that, even though they’re shitbags who want all the benefits of society with no responsibility, they’re still victims of even bigger shitbags.
I mean the ones that end up on YouTube are shitbags, But I’m not certain that all of the rest are shitbags…… to be seen?
I never thought about it but #2 is probably a huge one. They see their local business man make it through COVID with 3 false PPE loans and feel they missed out. Or they hear about the corrupt construction company owner in their town and they don’t blame them they just want to get a piece of the pie and they don’t know how until they’re told about sovereign citizenship.
“Legal incantations.”
Well to be fair there is a cheat code, but you have to have a couple of hundred million to activate it.
Basically, they think you can make it through life without spending any money if you can just figure out the real world version of up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start.
Yeah tried that once, only thing i got was a HUGE head
“Why don’t ye go cry yerself to sleep on yer HUGE pillow!”
“I’m not kidding, that boy’s head is like Sputnik; spherical but quite pointy at parts!”
UwU
They believe the law is a magic language, where if you learn the secret words and perform the secret rituals, you get to use shortcuts to bypass the normal rules. They see themselves as a secret society of law wizards, essentially. In some ways media has encouraged this by making contracts and such to be these arcane things with tricksy loopholes if you just figure out how to sneak through, but their belief goes far beyond what you might see in media.
They also hold lots of contradictory ‘logic’ and opinion. Like that the government/corporations/someone is trying to screw you, and yet for some inexplicable reason they will instantly capitulate and be powerless if you speak the right words. It really, really has parallels to the concept of binding demons and such with magical contracts with the right magical words. Or the fact that they believe these things to be secret-ish and relatively unknown except by their peers, but at the same time become outraged when every minor functionary of any government or company doesn’t immediately recognize their secret words and capitulate.
It’s as though the same sort of people who once believed in witchcraft and demons and all have adapted to the modern world where all that stuff is laughably false, but we all believe in ‘the law’ and ‘science’ and such, and therefore they come up with superstitions dressed in the clothes of law, but it’s still the same old stuff. It’s very similar to the bronze age man who sacrifices a goat or his daughter or whatever in order to get better crop yields.
They just hate taxes and want free stuff. They don’t want to live outside society.
So… boomers