All my communist posts keep getting deleted there. It is crazy to me that a workers subreddit is not communist 😵‍💫. They are not going to achieve anything by being neoliberals.

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    The revolution is going to require work and, if you’re like me and you live in a so-called post-industrial country which is dominated by a “service economy” (which is completely different from a Soviet bureaucratic state, I promise, because government bureaucracy bad but the countless fractal overlapping private bureaucracies under capitalism are a beautiful thing and a shining example of Free Market Efficiency™) then there’s going to be a lot of work necessary to reindustrialize your country post-revolution, especially when facing capitalist subversion and encirclement plus the necessity of providing genuine development-focused aid to countries and groups subjected to colonialism/neocolonialism and imperialism by your country.

    Anything less than that is to hold petit-bourgeois aspirations for your revolution which doesn’t take into account the need to pay reparations for the damage that your country has inflicted globally.

    If your idea of a socialist society is one where everyone gets to be digital nomads working 15-hour work weeks then it’s about as idealistic as assuming that everyone under capitalism could become rich if we all became hedge fund managers.

    You can’t convince me that the revolution isn’t going require a lot of hard work to achieve and even then, that’s just the beginning.

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      This is a great write up about this. The best response I’ve seen to this sorta argument so far. It’s ridiculous when people think that within just a few years of socialism everyone will be an artist working 20 hour work weeks

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      I’ve been wondering about this recently, will it be easier to re-industrialize than it was to industrialize at all first? Anyone have any essays about that?

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        Honestly, it’s a really good question. I haven’t seen any articles or lectures discussing this issue myself.

        As for reindustrializing, I think that’s going to depend upon which countries are willing to provide trade and development to a post-industrial revolutionary country. Honestly, I think that it would require relying upon China heavily.

        The thing is for a country like mine, we have old factories which are mostly disused. It’s possible to get them back up and running again but there’s often the issue of retooling machinery and reestablishing the supply chains necessary to keep the machinery working, which assumes that the machinery is still supplied by whoever made it and that it’s serviceable. This is not necessarily the case, however but I’m far from an expert in these matters.

        In short, I think reindustrializing would be easier than industrializing was (assuming that there isn’t a total embargo against the country) but it will be a pretty arduous process to recreate all of the domestic supply chains and to retrain people in order to maintain the machinery necessary to reindustrialize.