If you don’t like Biden and don’t wanna support trump, the party for socialism and liberation is running Claudia de la Cruz for president on a platform of immigrants rights.
You can vote for something you actually want this November.
It does. It shows the Democrats they can’t do Republican.
Even if Biden wins he will be rewarded for being a massive Zionist sellout and all Democrats will keep doing it. If they see it costs them votes they will refrain from doing so in the future.
Now bring up the “democracy ends in 2024 so there’s no 2028 meme” again.
It does. Not only does it help the party I support by giving them more access to funding, ballot presence, media appearances and raising public awareness of their very presence and platform, it shows the two major parties what votes they’re leaving on the table when they abandon the ideas I support.
If you want a concrete example of a third party making a huge difference, Perot ‘92 is pretty undeniable. His campaign raised awareness of and rendered nafta, which passed with bipartisan consensus, an unpopular policy and ensured its replacement with an agreement that would at least be talked about as significantly different. His campaign was also found years after the fact to have not been a spoiler and to have actually hurt Clinton’s victory margin most of all.
That’s not really viable in the US voting system. You need a third party that concentrates on a smaller number of voters to get some seats. The president is a single winner first past the post so voting in primaries is the only way to vote for something you want.
There’s still a case where forcing republicans to take a more centrist approach by beating them consistently is good. Then dems would need to diversify with better policies.
Voting system in the US is pure garbage. You’ll need a lot of independents to get ranked choice, then proportional voting system to have any real choice.
That’s not true unless you only consider the effects of winning a race to be viable under the us election system.
Even if a third party candidate doesn’t win, their ballot showing gives them access to funding, event presence, media coverage, public awareness and of course shows other parties exactly what votes they’re leaving on the table.
Republicans have not moved to the center due to pressure from democrats in 40 years. The idea is the other way around, that the ratchet effect is a constant movement to the right and democrats only keep the policy from “slipping” back to the left.
I agree that the voting system is garbage, but we don’t need to wait for election reform that will never come to support parties, platforms and candidates that we actually support. As I said earlier, that choice gets results, those results just might not be the ones you want.
Here I go again on my own, explaining how the American electoral system works to people saying third party votes don’t matter. Like a drifter I was born to walk alone, but I’ve made up my mind, I ain’t wasting no more time:
Votes for third party candidates ensure that they get access to funding, ballot and event presence, media coverage and increase public awareness.
Possibly most importantly, they show the two major parties precisely how many votes they’re leaving on the table and in what districts when they ignore those policies and platforms.
Also to borrow a turn of phrase: she’s electable if you vote for her.
Imma take a second and address the fascist dictator part: you don’t actually believe that. I know because you saw what happened last time trump wasn’t declared the winner of an election, most likely know about operation 2025, the plan to gain full control over administrative state power and exercise executive power to accomplish a big list of goals, and can put two and two together.
If you recognize the preceding facts and don’t think we’re getting January 6: the sequel: this time there’s been more than a month of planning and preparation, I don’t know what to say.
If you believe it’s a real deal, actual factual plan to usher in a fascist dictator you’d be preparing to fight brownshirts in the streets, not haranguing people who still believe in an American future for encouraging third party votes.
It’s astounding to me that a call to vote for a literal communist party gets met with someone saying “nuh uh, we gotta vote against fascism!” every time.
Just vote for yourself, that’s the candidate you agree with the most and whose chance to become President is the same as any other American third party.
If you don’t like Biden and don’t wanna support trump, the party for socialism and liberation is running Claudia de la Cruz for president on a platform of immigrants rights.
You can vote for something you actually want this November.
I really really wish doing so made a difference.
It does. It shows the Democrats they can’t do Republican.
Even if Biden wins he will be rewarded for being a massive Zionist sellout and all Democrats will keep doing it. If they see it costs them votes they will refrain from doing so in the future.
Now bring up the “democracy ends in 2024 so there’s no 2028 meme” again.
It does. Not only does it help the party I support by giving them more access to funding, ballot presence, media appearances and raising public awareness of their very presence and platform, it shows the two major parties what votes they’re leaving on the table when they abandon the ideas I support.
If you want a concrete example of a third party making a huge difference, Perot ‘92 is pretty undeniable. His campaign raised awareness of and rendered nafta, which passed with bipartisan consensus, an unpopular policy and ensured its replacement with an agreement that would at least be talked about as significantly different. His campaign was also found years after the fact to have not been a spoiler and to have actually hurt Clinton’s victory margin most of all.
It will help Trump get reelected, that’s a difference, right?
That’s not really viable in the US voting system. You need a third party that concentrates on a smaller number of voters to get some seats. The president is a single winner first past the post so voting in primaries is the only way to vote for something you want.
There’s still a case where forcing republicans to take a more centrist approach by beating them consistently is good. Then dems would need to diversify with better policies.
Voting system in the US is pure garbage. You’ll need a lot of independents to get ranked choice, then proportional voting system to have any real choice.
That’s not true unless you only consider the effects of winning a race to be viable under the us election system.
Even if a third party candidate doesn’t win, their ballot showing gives them access to funding, event presence, media coverage, public awareness and of course shows other parties exactly what votes they’re leaving on the table.
Republicans have not moved to the center due to pressure from democrats in 40 years. The idea is the other way around, that the ratchet effect is a constant movement to the right and democrats only keep the policy from “slipping” back to the left.
I agree that the voting system is garbage, but we don’t need to wait for election reform that will never come to support parties, platforms and candidates that we actually support. As I said earlier, that choice gets results, those results just might not be the ones you want.
“If you want to throw away your vote and usher in a fascist dictator, vote for me!”
But hey, you’ll feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing you didn’t vote for mean ol Joe.
Here I go again on my own, explaining how the American electoral system works to people saying third party votes don’t matter. Like a drifter I was born to walk alone, but I’ve made up my mind, I ain’t wasting no more time:
Votes for third party candidates ensure that they get access to funding, ballot and event presence, media coverage and increase public awareness.
Possibly most importantly, they show the two major parties precisely how many votes they’re leaving on the table and in what districts when they ignore those policies and platforms.
Also to borrow a turn of phrase: she’s electable if you vote for her.
Imma take a second and address the fascist dictator part: you don’t actually believe that. I know because you saw what happened last time trump wasn’t declared the winner of an election, most likely know about operation 2025, the plan to gain full control over administrative state power and exercise executive power to accomplish a big list of goals, and can put two and two together.
If you recognize the preceding facts and don’t think we’re getting January 6: the sequel: this time there’s been more than a month of planning and preparation, I don’t know what to say.
If you believe it’s a real deal, actual factual plan to usher in a fascist dictator you’d be preparing to fight brownshirts in the streets, not haranguing people who still believe in an American future for encouraging third party votes.
It’s astounding to me that a call to vote for a literal communist party gets met with someone saying “nuh uh, we gotta vote against fascism!” every time.
Just vote for yourself, that’s the candidate you agree with the most and whose chance to become President is the same as any other American third party.
Tfw u understand voting and parties.