This is ultimately the Jedi philosophy. Only use lethal force to defend oneself or others.
If the Oct 7 and ensuring events happened during, say that High Republic, the Jedi would be despatched to buffer the warzone. Then meditate between both sides like access to places of worship and settlement zoning, arrest anyone on both sides committing crimes against the Republic (kidnappers and war criminals) which would in turn please citizens on both sides. Then probably install a small Jedi outpost/temple to act as local peacekeepers. All to prevent more death, which is ultimately one of the main tenants of the Jedi Order.
One could argue Luke’s actions are the result of defense of others needed so direly after years of slaughter and against an indiscriminate killing machine by the Empire that the loss of life, albeit great, was justified.
The whole point of the prequels is that the Jedi were kinda shit and supported the status quo, even as Palpatine took over the Republic and formed it into a highly militarized empire. So yeah the Jedi probably would accomplish little of note for decades while the Palestinian situation got worse and worse.
A just government would have retaliated against Zionists after the Nakba, permanently destroying their ability to wage war and empowering the Palestinian government to prevent a repeat of the tragedy. A just and competent government never would have let zionist terrorists do what they did in the first place, and would have presided over a peaceful transition from colonial to local rule, resulting in a multireligious and multiethnic Palestine.
Hey now, they’re only bombing the Gaza part of Palestine. In the West Bank they’re just shooting the people and stealing land slower. And in the rest of Palestine they haven’t needed to do much of either after they terrorized the locals into fleeing back in 1948.
There’s no doubt that Israelis are killing Palestinian people in much larger numbers than Palestinians are killing Israelis. Many people have many views on who is responsible for what, and there are a lot of difficult and complicated discussions that one might have, but for you to forget about all of the Palestinians who lost their lives is just disgraceful.
And vice versa. It’s known as the most complicated political quagmire of centuries. If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong.
Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to want the war to stop. Once you start going farther than that…
Don’t allow people to push you to an extreme because you want to view your argument as a team sport.
And? They are killing terrorists that took their own civilians hostage. The Hamas also releases numbers as Palestinia and these numbers cannot be proven at all independently. Shure there is collateral damage and killings, shure its possible to mistake a civilian for a terrorist in the heat of battle, especially because the only visually recognized difference is the gun or bomb. But this isn’t at all targeting civilians on purpose, absolutely not, and thats what they are fighting against. Hamas literally uses their own people as meat shields against attacks and when a compatiby small number of them gets killed they can make first grade propaganda from it.
Yeah, fuck those 4 year old terrorists. They didn’t deserve heads anyways. Those terrorists in graveyards deserved to be dug up. Controlled demolition of universities is necessary because most of the bricks are terrorists. If a handful of terrorists hide in a hospital, the only logical thing to do is bomb the fuck out of the hospital.
Nothing about how the IDF is behaving looks like targeted attacks on Hamas. Military experts everywhere have been telling Israel since the beginning that their tactics would fail and result in mass civilian casualties and a strengthened Hamas. Israel does it anyways because killing civilians is the objective. Destroying homes, hospitals, schools, universities, religious institutions, and even graveyards is the objective. Everything that ties the Palestinian people to their land is being destroyed in a bald faced effort to drive them away. That is genocide, and that is terrorism.
I don’t. The reality is in the news every single day. There is a reason why Israel is spending millions on a disinformation campaign and still losing the PR war, and it’s not a sudden resurgence of antisemitism. Israel is very quickly becoming a pariah nation. Even US support is starting to crack.
No. This is false. This is “statement from the Palestinian authorities” put in articles by aljazeera and they are seen as “credible source” by the people wanting to have the hottest news for clicks. Its by definition fake news. But a little more complex than the fake news the average muricalander is used to.
Maybe killing people is the wrong solution.
On one hand I totally agree, but on the other I would like to see billionaires on the guillotine.
This is ultimately the Jedi philosophy. Only use lethal force to defend oneself or others.
If the Oct 7 and ensuring events happened during, say that High Republic, the Jedi would be despatched to buffer the warzone. Then meditate between both sides like access to places of worship and settlement zoning, arrest anyone on both sides committing crimes against the Republic (kidnappers and war criminals) which would in turn please citizens on both sides. Then probably install a small Jedi outpost/temple to act as local peacekeepers. All to prevent more death, which is ultimately one of the main tenants of the Jedi Order.
One could argue Luke’s actions are the result of defense of others needed so direly after years of slaughter and against an indiscriminate killing machine by the Empire that the loss of life, albeit great, was justified.
The whole point of the prequels is that the Jedi were kinda shit and supported the status quo, even as Palpatine took over the Republic and formed it into a highly militarized empire. So yeah the Jedi probably would accomplish little of note for decades while the Palestinian situation got worse and worse.
A just government would have retaliated against Zionists after the Nakba, permanently destroying their ability to wage war and empowering the Palestinian government to prevent a repeat of the tragedy. A just and competent government never would have let zionist terrorists do what they did in the first place, and would have presided over a peaceful transition from colonial to local rule, resulting in a multireligious and multiethnic Palestine.
Tell that to the terrorists…
We’re trying, but they continue to bomb Palestine.
Hey now, they’re only bombing the Gaza part of Palestine. In the West Bank they’re just shooting the people and stealing land slower. And in the rest of Palestine they haven’t needed to do much of either after they terrorized the locals into fleeing back in 1948.
There’s no doubt that Israelis are killing Palestinian people in much larger numbers than Palestinians are killing Israelis. Many people have many views on who is responsible for what, and there are a lot of difficult and complicated discussions that one might have, but for you to forget about all of the Palestinians who lost their lives is just disgraceful.
And vice versa. It’s known as the most complicated political quagmire of centuries. If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong.
Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to want the war to stop. Once you start going farther than that…
Don’t allow people to push you to an extreme because you want to view your argument as a team sport.
And? They are killing terrorists that took their own civilians hostage. The Hamas also releases numbers as Palestinia and these numbers cannot be proven at all independently. Shure there is collateral damage and killings, shure its possible to mistake a civilian for a terrorist in the heat of battle, especially because the only visually recognized difference is the gun or bomb. But this isn’t at all targeting civilians on purpose, absolutely not, and thats what they are fighting against. Hamas literally uses their own people as meat shields against attacks and when a compatiby small number of them gets killed they can make first grade propaganda from it.
Yeah, fuck those 4 year old terrorists. They didn’t deserve heads anyways. Those terrorists in graveyards deserved to be dug up. Controlled demolition of universities is necessary because most of the bricks are terrorists. If a handful of terrorists hide in a hospital, the only logical thing to do is bomb the fuck out of the hospital.
Nothing about how the IDF is behaving looks like targeted attacks on Hamas. Military experts everywhere have been telling Israel since the beginning that their tactics would fail and result in mass civilian casualties and a strengthened Hamas. Israel does it anyways because killing civilians is the objective. Destroying homes, hospitals, schools, universities, religious institutions, and even graveyards is the objective. Everything that ties the Palestinian people to their land is being destroyed in a bald faced effort to drive them away. That is genocide, and that is terrorism.
Sources for these claims are absolutely necessary.
And the hospital thing is proven to be false.
And im not going to argue any further with you as you are obviously deep in your terrorism support hole, im not going to get you out of this.
Keep yourself safe and maybe speak with the people that actually have been there.
Why? I don’t see sources for all your bullshit.
For what do you want sources specifically?
I don’t. The reality is in the news every single day. There is a reason why Israel is spending millions on a disinformation campaign and still losing the PR war, and it’s not a sudden resurgence of antisemitism. Israel is very quickly becoming a pariah nation. Even US support is starting to crack.
Look at any news source. Literally any of them. Israel has repeatedly attached Gaza’s healthcare infrastructure.
No. This is false. This is “statement from the Palestinian authorities” put in articles by aljazeera and they are seen as “credible source” by the people wanting to have the hottest news for clicks. Its by definition fake news. But a little more complex than the fake news the average muricalander is used to.
You Just repeat terrorist propaganda.
Lmao. So Israel didn’t have a general give a CNN news crew a tour of a hospital basement after fighting through that hospital?
This shit is freely available on the web. It’s not obscure, it’s not behind paywalls, and it’s 100% a war crime.
I will if I ever meet one.