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    Billionaires run the world

    Extremely wealthy people shape public policy through their platforms, firms, foundations, and investments—imposing their individual values and beliefs, and bypassing democratic governance principles.

    Clearly I’m uneducated on how these reports work because I was completely surprised that this was even in there. But also, if civil war does break out what are we going to do? Take in refugees? Harden the US/Canada border? I do wonder if civil war would ever happen here, what with the Israel marches going on (Toronto had a lot more people than I was expecting…).

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      The reality is that political situation here isn’t all that different from US. If a civil war broke out there, there’s a very good chance it would spill over to Canada. I’m also not sure what measures Canada can take realistically. Sane measures would be to start creating nationalized industry to produce necessities, strengthening ties with China, etc. Any of that is a non starter in Canada.

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        Canada and the US—no matter how much Canadian leadership throughout history have tried to prove the contrary—are basically one nation. Very rarely are they diametrically opposed and when they are then the Canadian leader ends up getting yelled at or assaulted (just learned about Pres. Johnson attacking PM. Pearson in my history class, wild altercation but so in character it’s almost comedic). If Canada doesn’t want the problems to boil over then, yeah, the government is going to have to start pulling away from the US and solving our domestic issues properly. If civil war breaks out I don’t know what I’ll do but hopefully escape isn’t expensive.

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          Exactly, Canadian political class is entirely subservient to the US. I think another big factor is that Canadian domestic politics largely mirror the US as well. The lib/con split here is very similar to what we see south of the border, and social cohesion in Canada is fraying as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if social unrest spilled over once quickly. I definitely wouldn’t want to be here if that happened either.

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      I think “civil war” is less likely than just mass rioting of the type we’ve seen many times before. A civil war needs to have some level of real political antagonism. Red v Blue doesn’t have that. It’s more like gang warfare.

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        You’re right, rioting is probably the better term to use since I would think “civil war” would require a lot more organizing… either way the situation in the States and up here are not looking good.

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    Indigenous peoples are formally involved in the governance of unceded territories across Canada, including in densely populated areas.

    Oh Canada. Your home and not native land. I do find it amazing that they implicitly admitted that we are not in control of our own land though, and actually came out and said that it would be very bad if we did.

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      I really think that’s a very likely scenario in the coming decades. For example, I can see Texas exiting the union, and then some red states might follow it. Similarly we could see that happening with California or Florida. As the economic situation keeps getting worse, the domestic political tensions will keep rising, and we’re already starting to see rhetoric from both blue and red states that the problems with the economy are the fault of the other side, and if they only weren’t burdened by them, then things would start getting better.

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        Gonna go with “some nukes would go missing” and “absolutely, yes” respectively IMO. To the latter, the question probably becomes whether the rank-and-file would join in the madness, and whether they could stop it.