This is a genuine question, as every time I have an argument about this with someone they bring a point so utterly stupid that it leaves me stumped…

  • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
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    It’s stupid because:

    • Women are not some single homogenous group. Every woman is a unique person, just like men are.
    • Everyone by default deserves to be treated with dignity and respect, including women.
    • Being an asshole doesn’t make you more likable.
    • Instead of trying to hack your way into a relationship, have you tried actually dating someone?
    • Elferrerito@lemmy.world
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      1000% this. You can break most of the red pill mentality if you can make the person understand that each woman is their own individual, and that the whole “us vs them” mentality will not get them very far.

      I think you will also have a greater chance of changing their mentality if you manage to understand what drove them into the “red pill path” to begin with.

    • 1984@lemmy.today
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      There are books about how to manipulate women. I read one of those and felt sick. No normal man can write stuff like that, publish it, and feel good about himself. Jesus.

      • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        I personally manipulate my wife into loving me by being a responsible husband and loving father.

        Am I doing it right?

      • ElleChaise@kbin.social
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        Normal men don’t read it either. We’re potentially raising more broken young men than we’ve seen in the last hundred years. And when the aftershocks arrive, people will act surprised like they always do.

        • 1984@lemmy.today
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          It’s by design. I know it sounds a bit lame, but it’s obvious the west is not spending money on creating healthy kids and adults.

    • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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      Women are not some single homogenous group. Every woman is a unique person, just like men are.

      Actually I think you’ll find that all women everywhere can be extrapolated from 5 shit takes on Twitter, one of which was a joke and one of which was a far-right LARPer /s