• Jake Farm@sopuli.xyz
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    5 days ago

    The concept of there being an “indigenous population” on a land that humanity has occupied and fought over for 10000 years is laughable. And stolen? They lost a world war.

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      The concept of there being an “indigenous population” on a land that humanity has occupied and fought over for 10000 years is laughable

      Hold up…

      You don’t think Africa has any indigenous populations?

      You think a random collection of Europeans can say they deserve that land and take it?

      Like, that’s apartheid South Africa mate… Even modern South Africa doesn’t defend that anymore, which is why they’re fighting Israel in the courts today.

      And stolen? They lost a world war.

      What?

      Are you saying that you think the native population of Israel fought with the Nazis?

      Who told you that?

      I don’t think you’re intentionally spreading misinformation, but that’s what you’re doing even if you somehow believe it

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        5 days ago

        Not only are you unaware of the Ottoman Empire and its role in the World War 1 but you also forget that said land has been controlled by almost a dozen different empires several of which wipe out the previous inhabitants and installed their own.

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          They didn’t just wipe out the people who lived there and move in new people…

          Large scale immigration didn’t start happening till ethe mid 1800s when ethically European and Jewish people started immigrating enmass.

          Partly because the Ottoman empire was friendly to ethnic and religious minorities.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Jerusalem

          When Rome first took it over, yeah, lots of people (Jewish and otherwise) were killed. But they werent just Jewish, they were also descended ethnically from people who had lived there for centuries.

          Converting to a religion doesn’t magically change your ethnicity…

          But that’s the only way what you’re saying makes any sense.