The boost in support in the far right is concerning in Europe however it is also over reported and the media often fails to understand the political systems.
Most European countries have proportional representation.
In Germany AFD won 16% of the vote. They came joint second which made headlines but 16% is low. Worst case is they could conceivably join a coalition in a split Bundestag. But AFD are not currently realistically close to power.
In France, the far right was 33% of the vote, again making headlines and troubling. However that is in the first round. France has a second round where the 67% can coalesce around candidates. It’s troubling but the far right is not getting a majority in the French parliament, and it remains unlikely they would won the presidency as the left and centre out weigh them.
In the UK Reform is polling around the same level as the Conservatives at about 18%. In the UK’s system its first past the post so it looks like they’re get a few seats at most - literally 5 - put of 650 seats. The UK is looking very likely to elect a centre left party to power with a huge majority, mainly due to the implosion of the conservative party.
While these are all concerning and reflect lots of local trends, there is a huge difference with the US. In the US the republican party is viable for the presidency, the house and the senate and already hold the supreme court.
The US is in a far worse position than almost any European country when it comes to the extreme party being at the doors of power. Europe has much work to do, but the US is fucked because its much vaunted electoral system and constitution has been shown to be extremely weak and fatally flawed, and seems to be unfixable.
I feel like a lot of this is exported from America. There certainly seems to be some lag between the nonsense we see in the us and the rest of the world
This is because of tolerance. Those on the left teach and preach it. They turn their noses up. Act like it isn’t there, or avert their eyes and call it someone else’s problem.
Bluntly speaking: Y’all spineless up until there is no other choice.
Last year or so I’ve both heard and read far less of the “I can’t protest because I need this job/money/don’t have days off/[insert excuse here]”. The writing has been on the proverbial wall for quite some time, in big bold neon, blinking letters. When you all stop arguing with one another, and stop working hard to displace responsibility, many on the Left have proven they can actually read.
Yes, I’m a bit annoyed. For years, both online and off, I’ve been saying the same shit. Recently, I’ve begun to feel vindicated, and you know what? It fucking sucks.
Are you ignoring all the fascist shit happening across the world lately as well?
This particular thing may be US-exclusive, but countries across Europe are doing their best to get back to the early 20th century again as well. Putin is trying to rebuild the Soviet Union again, and China is trying to take the Pacific by force, much like the Japanese Empire had a century ago.
There are parallels across the globe happening every day, don’t delude yourself to thinking this is a US-only phenomenon.
For now, the rest of us are getting polluted by the right in the US, look at the European elections, hell look at how well bitcoin milhouse is doing up here… and I still have at least 30 years left on this ride
In the USA
No not only the USA. Here in europe people are mass voting for fascist parties and in germany even for straight up nazis.
Racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia are becoming very accepted in public among anyone on the right and nothing is being done about it.
The boost in support in the far right is concerning in Europe however it is also over reported and the media often fails to understand the political systems.
Most European countries have proportional representation.
In Germany AFD won 16% of the vote. They came joint second which made headlines but 16% is low. Worst case is they could conceivably join a coalition in a split Bundestag. But AFD are not currently realistically close to power.
In France, the far right was 33% of the vote, again making headlines and troubling. However that is in the first round. France has a second round where the 67% can coalesce around candidates. It’s troubling but the far right is not getting a majority in the French parliament, and it remains unlikely they would won the presidency as the left and centre out weigh them.
In the UK Reform is polling around the same level as the Conservatives at about 18%. In the UK’s system its first past the post so it looks like they’re get a few seats at most - literally 5 - put of 650 seats. The UK is looking very likely to elect a centre left party to power with a huge majority, mainly due to the implosion of the conservative party.
While these are all concerning and reflect lots of local trends, there is a huge difference with the US. In the US the republican party is viable for the presidency, the house and the senate and already hold the supreme court.
The US is in a far worse position than almost any European country when it comes to the extreme party being at the doors of power. Europe has much work to do, but the US is fucked because its much vaunted electoral system and constitution has been shown to be extremely weak and fatally flawed, and seems to be unfixable.
Not all republicans are nazi or far right. That may be a small percentage of the republican voters.
Well, they’re not part of the solution so they might as well be part of the problem.
I feel like a lot of this is exported from America. There certainly seems to be some lag between the nonsense we see in the us and the rest of the world
It’s all the same oligarchy pulling the strings
This is because of tolerance. Those on the left teach and preach it. They turn their noses up. Act like it isn’t there, or avert their eyes and call it someone else’s problem.
Bluntly speaking: Y’all spineless up until there is no other choice.
Last year or so I’ve both heard and read far less of the “I can’t protest because I need this job/money/don’t have days off/[insert excuse here]”. The writing has been on the proverbial wall for quite some time, in big bold neon, blinking letters. When you all stop arguing with one another, and stop working hard to displace responsibility, many on the Left have proven they can actually read.
Yes, I’m a bit annoyed. For years, both online and off, I’ve been saying the same shit. Recently, I’ve begun to feel vindicated, and you know what? It fucking sucks.
Hold hands, it’s up to us now.
Good thing the same exact bullshit isn’t happening in Europe.
Are you ignoring all the fascist shit happening across the world lately as well?
This particular thing may be US-exclusive, but countries across Europe are doing their best to get back to the early 20th century again as well. Putin is trying to rebuild the Soviet Union again, and China is trying to take the Pacific by force, much like the Japanese Empire had a century ago.
There are parallels across the globe happening every day, don’t delude yourself to thinking this is a US-only phenomenon.
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Yes and earth is flat plus lizard people!!!1
For now, the rest of us are getting polluted by the right in the US, look at the European elections, hell look at how well bitcoin milhouse is doing up here… and I still have at least 30 years left on this ride