• Creddit@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    If you have your landlord call the plumber and pay for the plumber and you expect that to happen faster than you could do it yourself(because you are working your own job), then it’s hard to argue that is not a value-added service.

    If you break the toilet and now consider the property unlivable, due to a broken toilet, that isn’t the landlord’s fault nor the fault of the toilet. It’s your fault.

    Accidents happen and your landlord should be cool about it, but it’s still your own accident.

    None of this applies to natural causes like environmental damage, of course, but a lot of what happens to rental properties is caused by tenants.

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      4 months ago

      If you don’t own it, it shouldn’t be your responsibility to repair it. The only circumstance in which you should spend money beyond the rent you already pay to fix something that doesn’t belong to you is if you broke it and your rental agreement doesn’t cover accidents. Homes require maintenance, lived in or not, and a homeowner can decide to neglect that at their own peril. If something goes wrong, it’s the landlord’s responsibility to fix it, not the person paying them for the service of having a roof. If they don’t they’ll likely lose a tenant and therefore income, so fixing their investment property is just required investment maintenance, the cost of doing business as a landlord.

      I’m well aware many places have laws that touch on this subject, many of which have been heavily influenced by landlords.

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        I mean if something breaks due to normal wear and tare then that’s the landlords responsibility but if you flush a Barbie down the toilet or pour bacon grease down the drain it’s your fault. Washington state has laws mandating tenants to report certain damages or loss of power, heat, and water while the landlord has a period of time to get that repaired. If your loss water due to a damaged pipe it has to be repaired in 24 hours, who’s at fault and gets the bill can be hashed out later.

        Really, do you think when you rent a car that you can drive it into a brick wall, and it’s Hurtz responsibility to repair it because you paid for convenience?

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          4 months ago

          completely depends on the rental agreement. I encourage anyone reading this to find all the loopholes and exploit the ever living shit out of them.

          If I paid for Hertz’s $7 a day insurance and it says I’m not liable for damages in any way, then fuck yes I expect to be able to drive into a brick wall and walk away. Landlords who are too stupid, lazy, or uninformed to protect their capital from the people they’re exploiting to grow it don’t get special treatment, their capital is fair game. It wouldn’t be my fault if Hertz sold me that coverage, and it wouldn’t be a renter’s fault if a lease agreement let them off the hook for flushing a barbie down the toilet.

          What’s the last time you scrubbed the floor at a McDonald’s out of the kindness of your heart, just because some pee splashed on it?

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        4 months ago

        Agree in general.

        If your kid throws a baseball through a big window, that’s on you.

        If the dryer is used normally and breaks, thata on them.

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      This rent piggy has the right idea! You’re paying half your take home pay for the convenience!

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          There is if you have no way to argue against their point. It’s like yelling at someone to “win” an argument. It often works.

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            Pay piggy is a term of endearment. Pigs are cute, and tenants are like pigs full of their hard earned cash and it’s all mine! Oink oink oink.

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              I get that you’re mad about not being able to own land, that doesn’t mean you need to be a piece of shit about it.

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                  I’ve read every one of your responses.

                  There are many things that negate your arguments, like the literal paragraphs you’ve used reductionist arguments against.

                  No I will not discuss this further with you, put the phone down and go get some air.

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                    Okay bro, just keep telling yourself that anyone that doesn’t abide by your civility politics means their points are moot and that you know the real truth about things