Not a new revelation, but the article pulls from good sources and it’s nice to see this myth repudiated in a mainstream outlet.

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    Imperial Japan was as bad as Nazi Germany.

    They were holding literally millions of people in slavery and had used biological warfare.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

    The Japanese high command knew that they’d lost the war after Midway, but kept fighting for ‘reasons.’

    Every day the war kept going, innocent people in the Japanese Empire were being raped and killed. If any of them had been given a chance to vote on the matter, they certainly would have okayed the bombing.

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      Oh you want to get I to a wikipedia battle?

      Okay, while Japan and Germany were holding people in slavery and used for experimentation, the allies were doing the exact same thing.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_prisoner-of-war_camps_in_Canada

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchinson_Internment_Camp

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

      The US High Command knew they had won the war and were eager to drop atomic bombs on cities to show the Soviet Union they had a working bomb and to study the real world effects of a nuclear bomb being dropped on a city. It was as much science as terrorism.

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        So, you admit that the Japanese were enslaving and raping millions, and that stopped after the bombs fell.

        Seems we agree on the most basic point.

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          Curious, are you claiming that except the tens of thousands of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki the bombs also vaporised every single Japanese war criminal in every point of China, Korea etc?
          Or are you less literal, just again with no further arguments other than “it did because it did” backpedaling to the original claim OP is challenging?

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            Here’s a little thought experiment.

            Pretend you are a Korean/Vietnamese/Chinese et al victim of the Japanese invasion.

            You’ve had your home destroyed; your family members killed and maimed; seen thousands of women raped. The atrocities are ongoing, and every day you live in fear that you or someone you love will be the next one to die.

            Harry Truman comes to you and asks how long should he wait for the Japanese to surrender.

            How many months would you give the Japanese to make up their minds? Remember that the rapes and murders aren’t going to stop while they decide.

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              So you are just backpedaling and trying the other path. You got enough reading and listening posted by other people but you are still trying? How about you answer with actual argument instead of cracker concern trolling and emotional blackmail? But to entertain you for a second, i would told Truman to fuck off and accept their original surrender proposition. I would also stab him, maybe it would save millions of people, mostly in Korea.
              Finally, your moral asspull attempt is made even further invalid by the fact that Japan surrendered nearly a month after bombs that’s a month of further “killing my loved ones” in which America did not dropped even more atom bombs? Why if those were what forced japan to “immediately” stop killing?

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                I would also stab him, maybe it would save millions of people,

                So, it’s okay for you to kill in the name of protecting lives, but other people shouldn’t?

                That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day.

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                  The US wouldn’t kill in the name of protecting Asian lives because the US didn’t care about Asian lives. They literally had Japanese American children in concentration camps at the time. Half a decade later they’d commit to a massive genocidal war in Korea, and before that they’d do plenty of mass killings of peaceful protestors in Korea.