I’m already lib left and although I’m always open to more political ideas, economically, I will always believe in a regulated capitalist system. Now at this point, all of Hexbear is cussing me out. Yes, it would probably be an ideal world if everybody gets along and nobody exploits each other but it’s just the inner human greed we all have that prevents this, so I don’t think it’s a realistic goal. As many have mentioned though, I’ll check out the Jakarta Method. Maybe it will turn me into an Anarcho Communist.
The “inner human greed” is the system reproducing itself, based on profit and all that. Humans don’t have metaphysical stuff in them, just like kings don’t have the divine right to rule. We’re all educated to believe that this is how things always have been, and always will. That’s why we struggle to imagine any alternative system, and we struggle to understand that things do change. I’m still learning as well, so not sure if I was clear
It’s cool that you cam here in good faith to discuss, and I hope you do go ahead and read and learn more. The Jakarta Method alone rather elucidates the horrific crimes done by well regulated capitalist systems…
Looked more into The Jakarta method. That’s insane that the US started bombing civilians and started putting people in concentration camps. I think around 1 million were killed? Fucking brutal and I’ve never heard about it. The 30% in Indonesia went from loud and proud to silenced and murdered. Still, I was hoping this would’ve shed more light on how communism could work out.
I think their point in mentioning it is understanding the barbarity of the capitalist world order.
The question of “how [socialism] could work out” can be debated endlessly, but the grave element of the question is how to prevent liberal capitalism from being restored and how to survive capitalist encirclement. The libertarian navel-gazing about “incentive to work” and so on has always been bullshit and is frankly not a real issue.
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I’m already lib left and although I’m always open to more political ideas, economically, I will always believe in a regulated capitalist system. Now at this point, all of Hexbear is cussing me out. Yes, it would probably be an ideal world if everybody gets along and nobody exploits each other but it’s just the inner human greed we all have that prevents this, so I don’t think it’s a realistic goal. As many have mentioned though, I’ll check out the Jakarta Method. Maybe it will turn me into an Anarcho Communist.
Wow this has been real touchy-feely-friendly. I guess I’ll be the one to say
The “inner human greed” is the system reproducing itself, based on profit and all that. Humans don’t have metaphysical stuff in them, just like kings don’t have the divine right to rule. We’re all educated to believe that this is how things always have been, and always will. That’s why we struggle to imagine any alternative system, and we struggle to understand that things do change. I’m still learning as well, so not sure if I was clear
A regulated capitalist system just means ”the child labor is done in other countries”.
It’s cool that you cam here in good faith to discuss, and I hope you do go ahead and read and learn more. The Jakarta Method alone rather elucidates the horrific crimes done by well regulated capitalist systems…
Looked more into The Jakarta method. That’s insane that the US started bombing civilians and started putting people in concentration camps. I think around 1 million were killed? Fucking brutal and I’ve never heard about it. The 30% in Indonesia went from loud and proud to silenced and murdered. Still, I was hoping this would’ve shed more light on how communism could work out.
I think their point in mentioning it is understanding the barbarity of the capitalist world order.
The question of “how [socialism] could work out” can be debated endlessly, but the grave element of the question is how to prevent liberal capitalism from being restored and how to survive capitalist encirclement. The libertarian navel-gazing about “incentive to work” and so on has always been bullshit and is frankly not a real issue.