I watched the entire video, but I timestamped the link to where I believe it matters most for any comrade that ever liked Star Trek, liberal idealistic and quasi-militaristic flaws and all, and would like to see a succinct and thorough summary of what they might have already felt, may have already inductively collected for themselves, but got it drowned out by “well the TNG gang got together by the end of Picard Season 3 so just enjoy it like a popcorn movie, 4/5” or even worse brainworms like “section 31 is based and it’s just cold hard reality that such an agency would have to exist for the Federation to exist, just like in based Deep Space 9 which was totally about wars and genocidal biowarfare plots and how cool and necessary they are.”
The Trek fandom site in the Lemmyverse is loaded with insufferable liberal/libertarian 
and a fair amount of Thermian Arguments that justify anything that was presented on screen as not only good, but necessary if they were done by protagonist characters, and not just the flaws, weaknesses, and (for lack of a better term) sins of characters that weren’t intended to be infallible, let alone blindly emulated, no matter how cool it was when Sisko punched Q or whatever.
TL;DR: I hope comrades find value in this concluding section of a much larger video, or maybe even watch the whole thing, which I also think is worthwhile. Also, I fucking despise Section 31 apologists because they make the Lemmyverse’s Trek site unbearable for me. If Kurtzman gets his way (especially with that Section 31 series he keeps jerking off about), Trek will become increasingly murderfucky gory edgy black ops obsessed bootlicking schlock with a vague and redundant nostalgia flavor.
Space Hitler is gonna be the mc
Oh yeah the head douche of that terrible Lemmyverse argument I got into was really, really into the idea of the Terran Empire’s time traveling and universe hopping Mary Sue (with Section 31 associations too because OF FUCKING COURSE) made friends on the Discovery and therefore felt kind of bad for what she did and would “reform” the Terran Empire somehow, pinkie promise.
I said that was a load of bullshit and even if she meant it, it wasn’t even so much as pulling out the knife as Malcolm X once put it; the atrocities are already done, claiming to feel bad about it doesn’t undo the damage.
I got an astonishingly basic smug P R E S T I G E T V enjoying liberal barrage of “heh, you are babybrained and clearly dont understand what the adults in the room are doing”
that ended, of course, in a last word game.
Oh yeah I saw that thread, fucking libs gonna fucking lib.
I wanted to like the Lemmyverse Trek site, but that wasn’t the first time a bunch of smug neoliberal
was exchanged there, without me saying a damn word, where they gladhand each other about “to each his own” as if ethics in the Trek setting are just sports teams or like Star Wars lightsaber colors and costume choices. No surprise, Team Evil is the most popular and they want to feel like smart cool insiders, like their edgelord counterparts (or themselves) in Star Trek Online that fill their characters’ biography spaces with “BLACK OPS TOP SECRET CLASSIFIED RUMOR HAS IT EXILED SHADOW FORCE NEED TO KNOW BASIS” 
while commanding the ISS Ayn Rand.
Ueeeueueueugh star wars light saber colors! It’s literally just so you can tell who is one which team, but apparently in the shows now you sword changes colors if you wangst hard enough because something about inner turmoil or some shit. The idea that the dark side is a real verb, it’s using you magic powers to take things and hurt people and not an abstraction or a mood, is too much for some!
Grrrrrrr this glowbat is bleeding because I want to drain all the goodness out of your goodness crystal
I’m still pissed that Lucas signed on to that Clone Wars episode with the Nice Moon and the Mean Moon and the god of enlightened centrism preaching that everyone needs a balanced diet of peaceful contemplation and murderfucking for maximum space magic gainz.
Ugggggggggh nooooooooooooo fuck all the episodes where the force was in any way personified!
The only story i can think of that did the “you must be 50:50 good:evil crap are the Recluse books. And they had order chaos and worked on the premise that the more order magic you concentrated in one place the more chaotic everywhere else got. Recluse was a little hermit magic liberal super-power nation that had basically stolen and sequestered all the order magic in the world, allowing themselves to build steam punk super weapons and leaving the rest of the world subject to chaos magic which was really good for war magic and breaking things. They had all the build sustain and preserve magic, everyone else pretty much had " fireball!” And recluse used their magic to build ironclad gunships that only they could use because anywhere else a chaos magician could snap their fingers and detonate the powder magazine. So it wasn’t actually good and evil and it was actually justified by the magic system - the liberals had done, idk, magic imperialism to the rest of the world and reaping the bennies while everyone else suffered both from the absense of magic for sustaining, strengthening, and building and also a flood of magic suited for disassembling, weakening, and dismantling. And no one benefitted from processes that employed the two forms in harmony as a complete system.
A big part of the first book and honestly the only thing i remember is the kid from the super Orderly lib society leaving and finding out that chaos wasn’t actually evil and had legitimate uses beyond casting fireball.
I was prepared to get really mad at Final Fantasy XIV before I actually played Shadowbringers and found out how they’d expand the cosmology, mythos, and magic system to explain how light and darkness really work. I hate “neutrality means only murderfucking half the time” fictional morality systems, so it was nice to have the reveal that light and darkness were energy, just like the other elements of fire, lightning, wind, water, ice (no idea why ice is its own element but it’s magic so whatever) and earth, and that all of them could “flood” and destroy ecosystems and entire worlds. Evil still exists, as intent, and the utter annihilative force is an absence of such magic in the form of nihilistic despair as applied through akashi, or dynamis. Not perfect, but it was actually nice to separate good and evil from the elemental system entirely, no matter the reputation of “black mages” in the setting versus “white mages” before.
Nice, nice, good for them.
I’ve got one in another thread trying to tell me that Billups isn’t ace right now it’s a silly place
EXPLAIN THIS BULLSHIT
… I’ll check it out after I come back. Sleepy.
At your convenience
“Absolutely any opinion made of the character must be equally valid, and as such any sort of platonic friendship or fondness must automatically be weighed equally as possibly sexual tension. Actual sexual expression presented in the show, or lack thereof even when pressed, means nothing in the face of the power of shipping.”
Thanks. Sleeping will be slightly harder.
You didn’t have to click it now