i agree, the warmer matte white is a better fit for a room you actually want to live in. the glossy pure white makes it feel like a basement room.
The wall is almost certainly already some variation of Swiss coffee, which is like a drop of black and two drops of umber per gallon… juuuuust enough to give it a little color.
When I used to help people pick colors the primary advice I gave them was that once it’s on the wall you will never see the difference between the four shades of [color] you’re looking at because at scale your brain blends it in with the lighting and ambient color of the rest of the room.
Sheen makes more of a difference, and the answer is always satin/eggshell for living spaces and gloss for kitchens and bathrooms (because it’s more moisture resistant and washable). Flat can go fuck itself, it only exists as a cheap option for track homes who don’t care about your paint looking good for more than six months.
Source: worked at a paint store for several years, did a loooot of color matching by eye.
I had no idea the builder we had was going to use flat inside. I fucking hate it, the patches we’ve painted over with THE EXACT same paint never match because we are brushing it on and not spraying.
They probably didn’t even paint, just primed. Which a LOT of them do.
I at least know they didn’t only prime, it’s an actual noticeable shade of white.
We added onto our house and our contractor suggested flat and I vetoed it. Eggshell at minimum, please! I don’t do trendy. So happy to have insisted.
All of our trim is in Swiss Coffee though, lol. The funny thing is, I’d much rather have dark wood trim but that would cost a fortune. Maybe someday I’ll improve my DIY skills enough and do it myself.
You don’t think flat is good for ceilings?
(Also I think some people do really care about the difference between the shades but they’re not the ones who need help picking one out.)
Sorry, not who you responded to, but flat is great on ceilings everywhere but a kitchen. There’s always a chance food gets splashed on the ceilings in a kitchen so it’s best to use semi-gloss or better so you can clean it.
I do semi-gloss in my bathrooms as well to keep moisture out of the walls as much as possible.
Flat in living areas is best in my opinion though for light refraction. Softer and more light gets refracted all around the room instead of just reflected straight from the light source.
I despise flat, anywhere. Satin at a minimum, because flat is a bitch to clean.
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I agree, my bedroom has a wall with a sliding glass door facing South with a street light outside, and full wall length window on the opposite side. It’s bright as all fuck at all hours. Even a sliver of light would feel like the sun was shining in your eyes from all directions. I painted it a flat dark color and can sleep now.
If you have kids or pets, or just have a tendency to be a clumsy person yourself, then glossy is much better from a practical standpoint. So much easier to clean with less risk of rubbing the paint off the wall. To be fair, I don’t have much of an eye for style so it suits me just fine.
Yep we love our big matte red wall but that bitch catches scuff marks like crazy.
yeah, but if its on a rough wall like this one i don’t think surface finish matters much. stuff is going to stick anyway…
Definitely in with the non-white making a big difference, even if it’s subtle. Especially if your trim is white white, which highlights that the walls are just light colored, but distinctly not white.
Now let’s see Paul Allen’s wall.
Look at that subtle warm white colouring. The tasteful edge detailing. Oh my God, it even has aligned brush strokes!
Most humans are trichromats which means they possess 3 independent channels for conveying color information, derived from the 3 different types of cone cells in the eye.
Tetrachromats have 4 independent channels for conveying color information, derived from 4 different types of cone cells in the eye. This lets them see a larger color space than trichromats.
Maybe your wife is a tetrachromat.
Funnily enough there’s actually sexual dimorphism in human vision. While studies about exactly how different the structure of the eye is and how it might differ from an assumed objective commonalities is still not conclusive it’s thought Female phenotypic people supposedly do tend to have higher color differentiation on average and are better at recognition of static objects while Male phenotypic people have better night vision and ability to interpret objects in motion.
So a guy holding up two paint swatches they can’t tell the difference in and being confused is basically a cross cultural phenomenon.
It’s not necessarily sexual dimorphism. It could be gender dimorphism, as supported by the findings that colour differentiation depends on linguistics.
What you’re saying is true, it’s in the book Neurolinguistics and Linguistic Aphasiology regarding color and linguistics
Yeah but printers are optimized for trichromats and these color swatches are printed, so they should look the same to a tetrachromat as everyone else.
Which gives makes me feel bad for them cause all printed media, and any TV, monitor, or phone display that can’t do 1000+ nit HDR must look very dull and unrealistic to a tetrachromat. Hell, even HDR 400 (the minimum standard) in of itself is still a relatively niche feature, let alone HDR 1000+.
Women are more likely to have more rods and cones in their eyes and are therefore more likely to be able to identify the difference between very similar shades and hues as well.
Makes sense.
I can see the difference just fine; I’m male.
No, you are now a woman 😔
Yay that’s like $60k saved
You’re welcome, girly. You can Venmo me my half of that money any time for getting you that money. Finder’s fee
They’re clearly different, even under the bad lightning.
The wall is made using a very brightly white plaster.
On the other hand your sample is more muted drawing a bit toward some sort of warm brown.
Wall has a cold, blue tone to me. Warmer cream tone is king.
I think the blue tone is from a shitty LED bulb
…then it would cast on both the sample and the wall… so the sample is still a warmer color
You can see golden crust forming on the jpeg already. Don’t look away or it’ll get fry too deep
Some better lighting would help, for sure. OP’s wife is clearly trying to use gaslighting, and it’s just not working.
Or OP is, telling her it’s the same color.
I am sick of white walls
Honestly this. I began calling any white offshoot simply “Dirty white”. Bring color into my life, I beg you…sadly, I live in small flat, so dark colors ain’t an option.
Same. I’ve decided to do at least one mural in each room to live the place up more. I might paint my bedroom ceiling to look like space and stick some of those glow in the dark stars up there lol
Ooh, is there an art Lemmy you’d post that on? I love murals and have done a few myself. I will say they take a long time just to get the paint up on the wall. The creative part isn’t so hard, just getting that volume of paint up there is time consuming af
I can’t tell is it’s the same color or not, but switching from a semi-gloss to a flat or eggshell will definitely make a difference.
I work at a hardware store and I mix paint. I see shit like this every single day.
This is a level of petty that people with too much time, money, or lack of true purpose in life have motivation to pursue.
Got to warm the room up by a few shades!
Seriously I would just get a led bulb and change color in room that way. Of course there is no nautral light where I live so maybe that doesn’t work everyone.
Wait, how is there no natural light where you live?
You mean, like in your specific home?
They live in Moria.
Could be Dark City maybe.
Very similar life style but less murders.
A pineapple under the sea?
Rock and Stone baby!
Women see more colors than men.
The results of this study showed that overall, females gave more correct responses (P < 0.001) and also took less time (P < 0.01) than males. Color wise also, females gave more correct responses especially for red (P < .001) and green color (P < 0.01). The conclusion states that the females can see more shades of colors than males.
So she can go get the paint.
Once over dust, twice over rust
What does this mean. 🤔
My friend who was in the navy said that was his and his crewmates slogan when cleaning the ship. They just paint it instead of clean
It’s obviously a warmer white compared to the clinical colder white they have currently. Warmer colours just feel more homely. I wouldn’t want a cold officey white in my house
This isn’t a painting problem. This is a lighting problem
It can be both, warm lights don’t massively affect how cold/warm something is compared to other objects
The light is clearly a cold light, and the reflection magnifies that effect. The sample is much less reflective.
I’m no expert but, wouldn’t this be the sheen/finish of the paint itself?
Sure, but that doesn’t change the fact that, due to the placement of the camera, we are not getting a fully accurate comparison. Need more neutral lighting for that.
Make sure you use a good coat of primer so that the old color doesn’t show through. 😉
It looks to me like the only difference is that the card is flatter than the wall
It looks like it might be slightly a slightly warmer tone to me
Definitely, it’s clearly different, warmer white. Contrast will probably be bigger when painted.
The card is a warm white.
The wall is some kind of horrible greenish blue speckled mess.
maybe shes got that extra cone so her color differentiation is greater
