Every liberal does it too, from center right radlibs to far-right “conservatives”: the most extreme right fringe liberals hate the mainstream liberals for not being bigoted enough, the mainstream libs hate the radlibs for not being cruel enough, and the radlibs hate the left for not being chauvinist enough.
Denouncing chauvinism in particular is like a liberal moral event horizon, a cardinal sin against their self-interested belief in the righteousness of the imperial hegemon that keeps the treats flowing at gunpoint.
That blows up on Hexbear whenever someone gets mad at vegans for talking about the actual cost and harm done by the meat industry.
People were mad at the vegan comm because they were aggressive and confrontational dicks to everyone on the site while using the patina of veganism as an excuse.
Its why most of those very same vegans are all mostly banned off the website for their behaviors.
Its one thing to advocate for veganism, its another thing to for example call someone a “r*pe enjoyer” to a sexual assault victim for drinking milk in a thread completely unrelated to veganism.
I may have missed the worst of that; I wouldn’t have said that myself.
I had not seen any recent examples of that, but the "vegan spoke up, how uncivil" thing percolates from time to time without anything near the insult you mentioned.
It was pretty much the only other experience with meeting other vegans on this site tbh, I was legit excited about more vegans being on the site…up until they started posting lol.
Some hilariously unhinged statements did come from them like:
and
I’m kind of glad I either tuned it out or was just not in those subsections. I believe you when you say that happened and I remember some vegans talking about the mass bans and not liking those, but the context of what got them banned was lost.
I appreciate the quoted bits of Hexbear history. Maybe some of the site’s cultural reactions toward vegans are more than lingering
cliches. Unfortunately.
I actually saw that comment first hand and it was in the middle of a thread I was in and I got so fuckin mad. As someone who has been food insecure myself for most of my life and currently cannot afford a kitchen and will be hungry till I get to work and heat up my little bowl of 3 bean chili honestly seriously fuck that person that said that and I am glad they are gone.
BUT IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN IT’S MY TREATS!!!
note that my disparaging attitude towards carnists and vegetarians on hexbear also carries over to whoever banned me from c/vegan 2 or so years ago for not being reductive and racist enough about indigenous people
also note that if you aren’t vegan you aren’t allowed to have an opinion on either indigenous veganism or my ban
I’m vegan and I don’t expect people outside of cities to be vegan. Expecting indigenous people who are systematically put into food deserts would be just silly IMO. But anyone in the city should go vegan. Tbh I still don’t get how people who don’t forage and hunt as the means of getting food aren’t vegan. The costs of animal products are wild.
There’s also some really really good alternatives that are actually cheaper. Especially if you can find a discount store. Though in a similar note I am really lucky in that I work in one of those discount stores.