Weather she is now, idk but I don’t think she started that way. I think she was just a kid fighting climate change. She got media attention by the libs for pissing off the conservatives. She was starting to go hard left and getting out of favor with the libs for a bit and I assume that’s when they started really laying on hard to reign her in. Idk if she’s been reigned in or is just being mislead. The anti Russia propaganda is one of the hardest pushes that has been done in a good while and even from our standpoint we know Putin is, in general, a POS, it’s just in the instance of this war he happens to be in the right.
I will not condemn a young person for being affected by mass media propaganda, especially when they started out with a just cause. The hate should be reserved for the ones that did this to her. If you hate and reject every potential comrade for being impacted by western propaganda you will have very few comrades. I said was worse shit than her at that age thanks to western brain rot. Now I have turned several of my friends into communists and push back on western BS when I hear it. If there one thing I learned doing this its that if someone says something dumb (like this little post of her), while not acting in true bad faith, and you respond with vitrol, you just pushed someone away that you could have reasoned and talked with.
She got media attention by the libs for pissing off the conservatives.
This is a very naive understanding of how ‘media attention’ works under capitalism. greta doesn’t spontaneously become an internet sensation it was carefully planned, you can read more about this here
I don’t understand the last paragraph of your comment greta is not our friend that we can ‘push to our side’ during a dinner conversation, you seem to have developed some parasocial feelings for her. but that’s fine i will not hate or reject potential comrades like you for being impacted by western propaganda
I wasn’t just talking about her I was talking about how we react to people in general. This is just one example of someone makes a stupid comment or something and unless we know they are acting in bad faith we should be more cautious about reacting with such vitrol as I have seen here and elsewhere.
I didn’t know the background of where she got started. I didn’t rly care. My thoughts on the subject was “oh look a climate change activist that is popular and said a few based things. That’s cool. Maybe they will keep being based.” Which then turned to disappointment but I felt some comments were being a bit harsh. This was the first thing I’ve seen of her being a major lib and falling in line with western narratives but then I don’t follow ppl like this… Or anyone for that matter. This site is like 90% of my exposure to what’s going on in the world.
Yeah the good old joke about the west being so good at propaganda that “there is no propaganda in the west” is very applicable here. I know quite a few good people, who are just not media literate enough to understand when they are being duped. And to be fair, the propaganda is constant, and from birth. To be anti-NATO in a NATO country is not something you just stumble into being, you actually have to read, and actively understand how the world works.
Not trying to excuse anyone here by the way, it just makes me sad when people I otherwise have liked fall to propaganda. I hope they learn, they are still young, and god knows I had some stupid beliefs when I was 18-20 years old.
Yeah I get it. It makes me sad for the person and angry at the people that did this to them in the first place. Attacking a person for falling to propaganda only helps those that spread the propaganda by pushing those infected away from us. If some kid makes a dumb remark and you scream at him it’s just going to push them into the arms of the enemy. We have to try and reason with them if there’s a chance they aren’t engaging in bad faith. And from her track record I don’t think she started out as a puppet. If we immediately ostracized every potential comrade for something they said that was propaganda, when they do not know better, then we would have very few comrades.
Unfortunate, but she wouldn’t be the first to be misled by the western propaganda machine.
very charitable to think that she is not part of the western propaganda machine
Weather she is now, idk but I don’t think she started that way. I think she was just a kid fighting climate change. She got media attention by the libs for pissing off the conservatives. She was starting to go hard left and getting out of favor with the libs for a bit and I assume that’s when they started really laying on hard to reign her in. Idk if she’s been reigned in or is just being mislead. The anti Russia propaganda is one of the hardest pushes that has been done in a good while and even from our standpoint we know Putin is, in general, a POS, it’s just in the instance of this war he happens to be in the right.
I will not condemn a young person for being affected by mass media propaganda, especially when they started out with a just cause. The hate should be reserved for the ones that did this to her. If you hate and reject every potential comrade for being impacted by western propaganda you will have very few comrades. I said was worse shit than her at that age thanks to western brain rot. Now I have turned several of my friends into communists and push back on western BS when I hear it. If there one thing I learned doing this its that if someone says something dumb (like this little post of her), while not acting in true bad faith, and you respond with vitrol, you just pushed someone away that you could have reasoned and talked with.
This is a very naive understanding of how ‘media attention’ works under capitalism. greta doesn’t spontaneously become an internet sensation it was carefully planned, you can read more about this here
I don’t understand the last paragraph of your comment greta is not our friend that we can ‘push to our side’ during a dinner conversation, you seem to have developed some parasocial feelings for her. but that’s fine i will not hate or reject potential comrades like you for being impacted by western propaganda
I wasn’t just talking about her I was talking about how we react to people in general. This is just one example of someone makes a stupid comment or something and unless we know they are acting in bad faith we should be more cautious about reacting with such vitrol as I have seen here and elsewhere.
I didn’t know the background of where she got started. I didn’t rly care. My thoughts on the subject was “oh look a climate change activist that is popular and said a few based things. That’s cool. Maybe they will keep being based.” Which then turned to disappointment but I felt some comments were being a bit harsh. This was the first thing I’ve seen of her being a major lib and falling in line with western narratives but then I don’t follow ppl like this… Or anyone for that matter. This site is like 90% of my exposure to what’s going on in the world.
Yeah the good old joke about the west being so good at propaganda that “there is no propaganda in the west” is very applicable here. I know quite a few good people, who are just not media literate enough to understand when they are being duped. And to be fair, the propaganda is constant, and from birth. To be anti-NATO in a NATO country is not something you just stumble into being, you actually have to read, and actively understand how the world works.
Not trying to excuse anyone here by the way, it just makes me sad when people I otherwise have liked fall to propaganda. I hope they learn, they are still young, and god knows I had some stupid beliefs when I was 18-20 years old.
Edit: Pronouns, sorry
Yeah I get it. It makes me sad for the person and angry at the people that did this to them in the first place. Attacking a person for falling to propaganda only helps those that spread the propaganda by pushing those infected away from us. If some kid makes a dumb remark and you scream at him it’s just going to push them into the arms of the enemy. We have to try and reason with them if there’s a chance they aren’t engaging in bad faith. And from her track record I don’t think she started out as a puppet. If we immediately ostracized every potential comrade for something they said that was propaganda, when they do not know better, then we would have very few comrades.