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      You still claim ignorance of the difference between “viable” and “spoiler” in the US election system?

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      In Ohio? Probably not.

      2020:
      Republican - Donald Trump - 3,154,834 - 53.27%
      Democratic - Joe Biden - 2,679,165 - 45.24%
      Libertarian - Jo Jorgensen - 67,569 - 1.14%
      Green - Howie Hawkins - 18,812 - 0.32%

      2016:
      Republican - Donald Trump - 2,841,006 - 51.31%
      Democratic - Hillary Clinton - 2,394,169 - 43.24%
      Independent - Gary Johnson - 174,498 - 3.15%
      Green - Jill Stein - 46,271 - 0.84%

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          I think people are less concerned about what you PERSONALLY do and are more concerned about what others do based on what you’re advocating.

          Mass voting for people who literally cannot win, at the expense of someone who can win, when the alternative is Trump is a very, very dangerous game.

          If enough people abandon Harris, it will allow Trump to win. Someone who has already stated he wants to be a dictator on day 1. Who wants detention camps. Who wants war with Mexico.

          I don’t know about you, but I’m not healthy enough to survive another civil war.

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            Yep. I’m not concerned one bit what self-described Socialist Chaos Tro…w is going to do in the privacy of the voting booth. If all it was doing was voting Third Party, I’d only blame it in aggregate for the outcome if Trump won by thinner margins than the number of idiots (and I’ll stand behind using this word to describe them) who voted for Left-Wing Third Parties.

            What I’m arguing against is this poster and its ilk coming in and saying we shouldn’t vote Dem, and pushing inane BS like the Dems are somehow as bad as or even worse than the GQP and that it’s OK to throw our votes away as Third Party votes in light of what Team Pepe and the Trumpster Fire has planned for everyone in this country.

            I’m too OLD to fight in a Civil War!

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              What I’m arguing against is this poster and its ilk coming in and saying we shouldn’t vote Dem,

              I’ve never said you shouldn’t vote Democrats. I said that I wouldn’t vote Democrat because I’m voting third party. But I have always said I support and respect your right to vote for whoever you want. The same rights that I have. Even if it makes you mad.

              I personally think the Dems are as bad as the Repubs. That’s totally my right to think. And I am totally free to express that opinion. Just as you are free to express yours.

              Dude, calm down. People are allowed to have different opinions than you.

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            I think people are less concerned about what you PERSONALLY do and are more concerned about what others do based on what you’re advocating.

            I believe in an educated public and giving people the freedom to choose. If you don’t trust society to make informed decisions when presented with multiple options, then I’m not sure what else to say. The fact that you seem to be so against respecting people’s choice to vote for how they want is starting to make me lose respect for you. I mean, I know you don’t care what I think, but I’m just putting that out there. You may think I’m an idiot, but I don’t think you’re one. But I’m def starting to take your opinions less seriously. Not that it matters. You are free to think what you like.

            Someone who has already stated he wants to be a dictator on day 1. Who wants detention camps. Who wants war with Mexico.

            Enough with the scare tactics. And you know what? I don’t think you actually believe that Trump is going to turn into some dictator rounding people up for death camps or starting wars with Mexico. I think that you just hate him so much, you’ll say whatever it takes to make your point. You don’t want to see him win. That’s fair. But let’s not act like you really believe those wild exaggerations. You just think his presidency will be bad for the country, and that’s fine. But there’s no need to go overboard with these extreme claims. It devalues your argument. And if you DO believe those things, well then, bruh I don’t know what to say. You do you.

            But I’m not afraid of Trump. And let me bold for all the haters: I don’t care if he wins or not. I’m not voting for him. Or Harris.