• Letstakealook@lemm.ee
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    9 hours ago

    That’s exactly what this is. It is Israel’s final solution after 80+ years of pograms against Palestinians.

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    4 hours ago

    It’s not a genocide. The genocide rhetoric is similar to the extreme right “white replacement theory” rhetoric in that it’s meant to incite violence.

    Responsible media sources want no part in inciting violence so won’t publish this kind of thing. And really their job is to report the facts not cast judgement. In a murder case they’ll say the word “alleged” a lot because of this. And genocide is a much bigger accusation, so they won’t be using that word unless a body with the authority to make that judgment does so. And there’s been no update about the concerns the UN had six months ago. Probably because the genocide the ghouls wanted to happen (to make their internet arguments stronger and get more of that sweet monetization money) didn’t actually happen.

    And really mainstream media is doing a solid for the pro-Palestinian movement by avoiding having the genocide false accusations discussed. Y’all sound like crazy people by constantly making this unsubstantiated accusation. From talking to people in this site my conclusion is you’re starting with genocide as a fact and desperately trying to find anything that supports this while ignoring anything to the contrary. It’s ghoulish behavior and it’s resulting in extreme gatekeeping which prevents there from being any new allies to your cause. But I guess you feel pure and good by making these false accusations and that matters more to you than people’s lives on the other side of the world.

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        3 hours ago

        “Alleged” is for when there’s an ongoing legal case. If you shot someone you’d be a suspected shooter until you’re charged with a crime. If you’re legally charged for murder, you’d then be called an alleged murderer. If you’re convicted of murder then you’d be called a murderer.

        If you apply the same rules, then the media should only use words that describe what happened (bombing, shooting, shelling etc.) and not use words that indicate it’s a crime until there are legal charges.

        It doesn’t matter how much you feel that Kyle Rittenhouse murdered people, the media won’t refer to him that way because he wasn’t convicted. Responsible media will handle a word like genocide with even more care since its an even bigger crime than murder.

        Ultimately it will be history that will judge whether it’s a genocide or conversely whether people have been making false accusations of genocide as apart of a propaganda campaign. Nobody serious in any position of responsibility will use the word genocide unless there’s compelling evidence. And so far we’ve only seen the kinds of things that happen in every war occurring. So it’s rightly termed a war no matter how many times one side of the conflict want it called a genocide. This is obvious propaganda, and responsible media source won’t be a part of that.

  • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 hours ago

    countries will have to reckon—media agencies will have to reckon—with their major role in the genocide

    “Hey, we maybe got it wrong, moving on we will never talk of this again.”

    The reason why the world does not get better is that it is too easy for humans to refuse to learn from their mistakes. If another false dossier about Weapons of Mass Destruction came out about a country that it would be cool to go and blow up, as happened with Bush and Blair and Iraq, I don’t think enough people would learn from the past to put a stop to it. It’s more ‘patriotic’ to just go with the flow.

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      Oh, but they had a pentagon under that one hospital! That’s why Israel bombed it. And then bombed all the other hospitals for good measure. Schools too. Oh, and those UN workers. And journalists. And ambulances. All had a mini pentagon in them.

      Didn’t you see the dossier and the video footage published by the news media from that one time we let them film exactly where we pointed them to film, after we had set it all up for them?