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    3 hours ago

    Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform…not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.

    Yeah, it sucks that progress is so slow, and yeah, it sucks that some things have gone backwards. But there has been a huge amount of progress in the past however-many years. We went from “don’t ask, don’t tell” to having a Catholic president openly support gay marriage in a relatively short time.

    Using Harris’ Glock anecdote as evidence the party is moving to the right is just lazy editorializing IMHO. Almost as lazy as just asserting that the party is moving to the left because of the issues that you decided illustrate the left-right difference…

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      Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform…not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.

      You forgot that the black woman is also the sitting vice president.

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        How does that meme go?

        “I hear the next [drones] will be sent by a woman” “Really makes you feel like you’re part of history”

        Black people becoming head executors of a white supremacist, imperialist state is not actually progress. Hillary being elected would not have been progress just because she was a woman. Her individual careerism and cynical exploitation of being a woman does not help the average woman, it just helps her. Obama was happy to oversee a brutal financial abuse of black homeowners circa 2008 while bailing out banks. Harris, well, you can look at her own record with families in her handling of truancy and with people of color as “California’s Top Cop”. “But she was just doing her job” is the Nuremberg defense; She could have been doing a lot of other things, but I guess she decided this was the best course of action for her career (and she was apparently right).

        These people are traitors to the groups you are identifying them with. They’re sick bastards who are happy to bleed the working class dry. Don’t let such shallow methods of manipulation get to you.

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      Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform…not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.

      Oh do lgbt people have more rights now? Oh fuck, I’ll let my trans refugee friends know.

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        Yeah child, they do have more rights. Jesus fucking Christ. Let me take you back to the 80s and 90s with me. Trans people were so far in the closet we didn’t have that word. And if your were openly gay, which pretty much no one was, that was an ass beating.

        I’m sorry you’re an angry child with no historical perspective, but STFU, please. You little snots whimpering about change not being fast enough are making it worse. Your non-stop crying is giving the other side ammo.

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        The fact that your trans refugee friends continue to suffer is deplorable, but does not mean lgbt don’t have more rights now. You’re employing the same fallacy that anti-vaxxers use when they say it’s pointless to get a vaccine when it doesn’t 100% guarantee protection from the illness. Things are better for some people and still desperately need to improve for many others.

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          The fact that your trans refugee friends continue to suffer is deplorable, but does not mean lgbt don’t have more rights now.

          Trans people are experiencing low key genocide but we also have more rights now?

          Things are better for some people and still desperately need to improve for many others.

          Things are desperately worse for some people and have improved slightly for others.

          Genocide of trans people > gay marriage on the impact on the queer community

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          How does the early Roberts court being oddly chill about gay stuff represent the dems doing anything about anything nationally? The rights have not been driven by the DNC, they’ve been driven by culture (largely Queer Eye and Modern Family, which is why every two bit Disney+ writer thinks they’re MLK these days), the court, which was mostly republican appointees, and a deep neo liberalism combined with gay male couples on average being the highest earning couples. I will remind you, Obama ran against gay marriage in the 2008 primary, part of why I voted for?.. I think… Chris fucking Dodd or something? [Cringe] I’m in a state where your vote doesn’t matter because it’s too late, so I don’t even remember. Obama had it sewn up failing the superdelegate revolt Schumer already Littlefingered Hillary on in the end anyway. But at any rate, I literally voted against Obama in the primary for being anti-gay in 2008, he shifted because the culture shifted.