Just a fun question I thought of.
If only present-day ones count, Cuba for sure: nice climate (I like the warmth) and Spanish is already my native language.
If past attempts are allowed, I think I’d like living in the DDR too.
Well … I prefer Cuba because they speak the same language as me ( both dialects of the Spanish are very similar ) we share a big history with them and I always wanted to be part of the Partido Comunista de Cuba .
We in my country call Cuba ‘Hermana Mayor’ ( Big Sister ) and us ‘Hermana menor’ ( Little Sister ). We have a lot of things in common and we share the same culture, traditions , folklore, gastronomy, music and dances and more.
As my people say in the island : ‘ A Cuba hay que seguir ’ ( Cuba must be followed ).
I would go to Vietnam because I’ve personally been there before and really like it. Being from Florida I am also easily able to adapt to the tropical environment versus the DPRK which is colder.
I lived 3,5 year in PRC and it was a great pleasure, but coast cities as Shanghai and Guangzhou are westernized and I do not count them as the real China, i.e., the cities in the country center
3.5 years? Wow. So why did you return rather than settling in the PRC?
Vietnam for sure. My dad and step-dad both committed atrocities there, and it would be nice to work for the Vietnamese people and do whatever I can to atone as much as possible.
Obviously what was done can never be undone, and I can’t expect nor don’t expect my family to be forgiven the crimes they committed. I guess I can say that it would be the most symbolic and meaningful way for me to indicate that it ends with me.
DPRK.
I hate to sound like a fetishist or even as if I’m approaching that point. I am very much a white Amerikan guy, family tree of settlers all the way down.
That being said, I feel a deep perhaps inexplicable kinship with Korean revolutionaries. I have never felt so inspired as I was when I first learned about the history of Korea and their unceasing struggles for liberation and resistance.
Reading Kim Il-sung has been more elucidating than literally any other Marxist author or orator. The man was a genius with a steeled brain and warm heart. Nothing has both pulled my heartstrings and sent my synapses firing on all cylinders than beginning to understand the Juche idea.
The cold would not bother me. Any destitution would not bother me. I would be contributing to the construction of one of the strongest and greatest socialist projects on the face of the earth.
Forgive any cringe. My heart, my life for Korean independence and the Korean people. 만세!
I’m in a similar boat. I have nothing but respect for the people of the DPRK. I think living there or China would be amazing. That being said I think I’d be too ashamed to try and live in NK. Like I know I wasn’t even born when the US massacred them and have nothing to do with how our country continues to fuck them over, but I just can’t get over it. Like every day I’d feel like I should just apologize to someone. That and idk how I could even contribute to their society. There’s nothing I feel I could do that someone in their country couldn’t do just as well or better. I honestly feels that way I couldn’t go to China either. I just have nothing that makes me stand out to be truly worth it other than just wanting to live and work peaceful.
You young? I’m mid-20s. When I was a teen, I thought I wouldn’t live to see these years. My birthday is tomorrow. I’m a cashier. I feel very similarly about lack of overall usefulness… but I’m convincing myself that I can become useful. Somewhen somehow somewhere. Eventually.
We have time. Apocalypse is around the bend, but we’ve got time. We have to have time - convincing ourselves we don’t is a surefire way to wind up doing absolutely nothing with the time we do have and then wondering where it all went when it finally runs out. Time is not a privilege or luxury for everyone.
I’m on the brink of homelessness, but I’ve got time. I will do something with this lifetime in service to the international socialist project. Somewhere somewhen somehow, yeah?
I am not so young anymore. Mid 30s. Things starting to ache. Not sure I can stomach going back to school. Mind isn’t as sharp as it used to be anyway. Learning and focusing on learning is harder. I’ve had too many years of stress and sleep troubles. I know I’m not THAT old but I FEEL so much older. So much time I wasted. I wish I had learned about the truth of communism a decade ago. Back when I had more time to set myself on a better course. Plan things out better. Right now I’m just focusing on keeping my head above water and hope some better opportunity presents itself I just don’t know what else to do.
I like my country, Brazil. I am attached to my people and my culture, I prefer to live and die struggling for socialism here
BUT, since this is an exercise in fantasy, I would choose post WWII Soviet Union
Laos to see what they’re hiding
I’m not gonna move out of USA while I can still contribute to the revolutionary struggle here, but my plan for my old age is to retire in Cuba.
I would absolutely love to live in the former USSR, even during the revisionist period. A close second for former socialist states would be East Germany.
But if I had to pick a socialist state still standing, definitely China.
I really, really, really wish I could just live in the PRC, but alas, I feel like it would remain a pipe dream; because I don’t really imagine I’d be able to, or even be allowed to stay; given that I feel like most CompSci jobs in the PRC have already been taken by others.
Even if not, I don’t imagine I’d be lucky enough to have a job in the PRC to just fall on me; even after many attempts. Even if I do get a job, there’s no guarantee I’d be able to be a Permanent Resident there.
It’s surprisingly easy to get a teaching job in the PRC and stay for an extended period of time. And I’ve seen several job postings for CS teachers that are waiting to be filled (WeChat is extremely handy for a job search). From what I understand the pay and work hours are much better for teachers than they would be at a tech company.
Permanent residence is another matter. The good news is that it is becoming easier to get in some municipalities (basically Shanghai). We’ll see how long it takes to expand to the rest of the country.
Really? I wonder if there’ll still be a seat/position left for me by the time I go to the PRC. I think I’ll give WeChat a spin sometime.
Still deciding if I should go to the PRC for my Masters or for my PHD, since my main goal is to find another country to start a new life in, to come out of the closet without worrying about mobs or lgbtphobic family members. Don’t wanna risk it and wind up having to come back…
The better way is to finish PhD or MsC in your country, then go to China. Chinese schools are oriented toward Chinese people and their customs. But they value a high quality foreign experts. You can go there as a postdoc, even for 6 years, and if you like it, you can stay there at university or a company.
Thing is, I plan on leaving my country for somewhere better after I complete my BSc. I have two more years left. I have no intentions of doing MSc/PhD in my country.
OK, but I am not sure whether you can further study in China in English. Unless you know Mandarin very well.
Just as an example there are 32 Graduate level programs taught in English at Tsinghua, and as far as I am aware most universities of a certain stature have programs taught in English (of varying quality) and will also have classes to teach the Chinese language to international students.
There are also USA and UK universities that have partnered with Chinese universities that offer many programs taught in English, like Xi’an Jiaotong Liverpool University and New York University: Shanghai.
Tsinghua needs their students to be at least HSK 4-5 to be able to enroll though.
I don’t mind enrolling in Mandarin. I actually was studying Mandarin, for fun a while back. I stopped a while back, but I can resume that if need be. (I was learning through HelloChinese, but at some point it asks you to pay to continue… wouldn’t have been a problem if I had a Card or a Chinese Payment System or whatever they’re accepting, as I can afford it)
My current Mandarin skills are, I’d say HSK 0.1. So. Obviously not great, but that can be mended in time.
Cuba. Closest socialist nation and Spanish is easier to learn.
China is a close second, but I know the culture there is far different and I’d be afraid to try to assimilate. Maybe that’s just because I see how Americans treat foreigners, idk.
As Camarada Forte said, though. I’d prefer to stay in my home country (US) and live/die for socialism
I would have a hard time deciding between Cuba and China. Cuba just seems like it would be an awesome place to live in terms of lifestyle, but I would feel safer from imperialism in China and would enjoy exploring the amazing geography of the country.
I’ve stayed in China for multiple months at a time so I would say probably there. If I could really pick anywhere, somewhere in the south for sure because I hate winter. Guangzhou is an extremely cool city with a lot of international diversity which I like. Plus you can easily get transit to Shenzhen or HK, or to somewhere like Guilin if you wanna see some nature.
I’d absolutely accept Vietnam or Cuba as well. Running theme here is I’m tired of being cold.
Current: Cuba or China
Former: SFR Yugoslavia
Tito seems to been missed by Serbians even more than Russians, for instance, miss the USSR. The collapse of the Soviet Union was awful but as terrible as it was, it didn’t lead the country into one of the most brutal civil wars of the late 20th century.
