Disclaimer since based on my last comment i know the accusation is coming: i voted for claudia already. I think socialists should vote for Claudia if shes available.

I just also think voting is not the ultimate expression of politics and doesnt mean that much. The “its an endorsement” thing is true, but one extra endorsement does not equal one extra dead Palestinian. Thats just magical thinking. (Also, ive tried telling people the endorsement thing because its what changed my mind about lesser evilism, it doesnt work.)

And the idea that every Kamala voter is horrific evil when many are scared, propagandized, gaslit marginalized people doing what they think they need to do to not die is misguided. You guys claim to be the ultimate propaganda understanders but dont seem to understand its power. Are people still responsible for their actions? Sure. Does a vote of all things matter as an action all that much? Lmao fuck no. Its basically pointless.

Like ive actually talked to liberals about their vote. I didnt even have to touch grass to it! Where their coming from is wrong and ive told them that, but ive seen the effect the lesser evilism propaganda has on their mind. they are not coming from a place of evil with their choice Hating, “not forgiving”, or throwing in the pit (as ive seriosly seen suggested) the 10s of millions of people who will vote Kamala in November is simply not practical. You cant hate humanity to that extent and organize. And you definitly cant desire to kill that many people lmao.

Also, most of you are ex liberals. Meaning most of you have endorsed war crimes with a vote. Probably worth keeping in mind.

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    voting for Kamala Harris is not the same thing as being a Hitlerite even though people doing it are completely wrong and I’m tired of pretending it’s not. You have seen the arrogance and myopic viewpoint of liberals. They do not think anything besides suffering is possible. This is not a mental state of Hitlerism but a state of supreme nihilism. It, of course, ends in materially the same thing, but intention is important when considering the “abstract moral value” of people, which is what this post is about.

    Also, most of you are ex liberals. Meaning most of you have endorsed war crimes with a vote. Probably worth keeping in mind.

    Also this is true. A ton of people here have endorsed genocide and are now deciding this is the genocide that they can decide lets them be a Good Person while everyone else is a Bad Person. Which of course is almost correct, that is how it works when it comes to genocides, endorsing them generally is a bad-person thing. But if you’re one of the people who literally did that exact same thing and are now “pulling the ladder up” because you’re already radicalized, then you have to realize how short sighted and selfish that is. If you are willing to give yourself a second chance despite a possible full past commitment to lesser evilism, then it is completely absurd to condemn every Kamala voter as unable to change.

    Of course, this does not apply to those who are genuinely spreading Democrat rhetoric, that is a staunch rhetorical decision and while I’m sure they could technically become radicalized to socialism later in their life I do not believe anyone is obligated to tolerate them. I am merely defending the still embryonic baby-leftists that likely don’t know what’s going on and are just trying to support as many people as possible with the flawed understanding of reality they’ve been given